93. When Should You Actually Eat Fruit? An Ayurvedic Timing Guide [VIDEO]

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Hey, pod pal.

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Welcome to today's episode, Fruit Talk.

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That's right, we're talking fruit.

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Villain or victim? I get asked about the Ayurvedic rules around eating fruit more often than I get asked about anything, and more importantly, when people ask me this question all over the world in all sorts of different environments where I'm teaching, there's a charge around the question.

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People are worked up about fruit and fruit rules.

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So I feel it's very important.

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You guys have been asking me about this recently, so we're gonna talk about fruit, right? 'Cause maybe you've heard things through Ayurveda that you don't like to hear about fruit rules, such as never eat fruit for dessert, never mix fruit with dairy, don't put fruit in smoothies, bananas are bad, melons should be taken alone or left alone, right? And so there's more to the story than a bunch of rules.

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Ayurveda is, as you probably know by now, not about that.

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We're gonna talk about why timing matters, why the state of your digestion matters.

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So who actually benefits from following fruit rules? When can you relax the fruit rules? And how is and when is the best time to enjoy your fruits, which I know you love.

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I can tell you love your fruit.

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How do we enjoy our fruit without creating any digestive discomfort? So I am going to download.

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Let's do this.

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So when we say that Ayurveda doesn't really make rules, you know, it does.

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You know, it, it makes suggestions.

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and- First and foremost, the Ayurvedic knowledge around food is of its qualities, right? So is it astringent? Is it drying, you know? Is it full of water? Is it moist? Is it heavy? Is it light, right? What is its effect on the body? Is it easy to digest, hard to digest? Does it digest fast or slow? Does it create any gas or acid while it's digesting? Those are the things that Ayurveda tells us about so many different foods.

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As you can imagine, the foods grown and eaten in India in medieval times are different potentially than the ones that a lot of us are eating today.

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And what's available to you for fruit, right, is different depending on where on the globe you live.

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However, the fruits are grouped together according to their qualities.

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So there's the fruits that are kind of starchy, heavy and sweet like mango, plantain, uh, jackfruit, banana, coconuts.

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There's fruits that are light and watery like melons.

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There are dates, you know, that are also kind of heavy, starchy.

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There's fruits that are very light like berries that have more soluble fiber, less sugar content.

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So citrus fruits, you know, they're watery.

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They're a little bit heavy, actually.

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you know, if you've bought one of those really expensive Sumo citrus, I, I'm always shocked by how expensive they are, how heavy they are.

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You know, I put them on the scale, and I'm like, "Oh my God, that thing weighs a pound and a half.

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It's gonna cost me $6 for that orange" right? So it's heavy, it's moist.

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It's also acidic, right? So your lemons, your limes, your grapefruits, your oranges, they're acidic.

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So that's totally different than, say, a banana, right? So if we're gonna mix together bananas and oranges, they're gonna kinda potentially fight against each other's qualities in your belly, right? And from that sort of eating where things are competing or, not harmonizing nicely in your belly, that's where you start to see the digestive byproducts, the hyperacidity, the gas, the bloat.

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And I think what most people experience when they eat fruit in ways that is not working well for their digestion is the bloat, right? And nobody loves to be bloated, right? And so we may not realize that some of our fruit mixing is causing a bloat, right? And then once you get the bloat, once you've got air kind of, being manufactured in your gut, then it starts to mess up the trajectory or the pace or the ability for your digestive tract to just kinda move things along the line as it would like to do smoothly and harmoniously.

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So there's reasons, you know, that these, observances around fruit might be helpful for some and not helpful for others.

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Before we really break down the rules or the observances, I want you to know that- The mixing of fruits, especially with dairy, creates a lot of, sourness in the gut, and it's particularly pointed to in Ayurveda texts that kind of sourness in the gut contributes to skin issues.

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So if you're somebody who's got an itchy thing You know, an eczema thing or, your skin is not clear the way you like it to be.

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You know, there's rashes, bumps, zits, cystic stuff.

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That's a good reason to think about what's going on with the digestion, right? Because, you know, I've got a story about this one.

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There was one, winter in India where I was really getting into the papaya boat.

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I called it a papaya boat, right? See, the papayas, you know, are just...

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I don't eat them anywhere in the world except in, the tropics where they grow 'cause otherwise they really don't taste like a papaya.

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So when I'm there, I tend to papaya out, you know? So I'll buy this papaya, cut it in half, scoop out the seeds, and then it makes like this boat.

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And I was filling the boat with like yogurt, and then I don't remember what else I was putting on there, maybe like chopped up almonds or something, you know? There was this, this boat happening every day though, I actually started to get, kind of boils, like, big cystic, pustules, kind of a- under my hairline and on the back of my neck.

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totally unrelated, I went...

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I just was going for an Ayurvedic massage, and the doctor at the clinic kinda saw me come in.

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and he looks at me and he goes, "You're eating the bad food."

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And I remember I said, "No.

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No, all I'm eating is like yogurt and papaya, you know, the fruits, like the nourishing dairy."

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And he just shook his head, right? So I learned a lesson through my boils that winter about, being in a hot climate and mixing together foods that don't digest at the same rate.

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so let me explain to you what was going on with my papaya boats, right? And how that might vitiate the skin as well as the digestion.

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So point number one, friend, is as we talk about like all, the cautionary tales around fruit, the positives, you know, as well as the not so great points around fruits, keep in mind that y- this is not about you following this perfectly.

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Nothing bad happens to you you know, the Ayurvedic police are not going to bang on your door when you start eating a papaya boat tomorrow morning or you start having your fruit granola and yogurt bowl, right, in the morning.

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However, if you're someone who has been kind of struggling with wondering what the heck's going on with, you know, certain skin, disorders that are bothering you or digestive stuff, you know, like there's a, the perma-bloat for example.

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And I'm not saying that fruit is the only reason that these things happen, but I'm saying that the, that fruits may be contributing to skin or digestive problems that are plaguing you, and it could be a really simple fix for you, right? It's just that maybe not the wellness system that you're using to look at your body is making this correlation, right, between what, what is produced in your digestive tract and how that's circulating through the body and might be manifesting in your skin So if you're somebody who's got the skin stuff or the digestive stuff, this information may be important for you.

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And if you feel great, you're happy with what's going on on the skin, you know, and your gut feels good, then whatever you're doing is probably working.

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So pat on the back, have a nice day, enjoy your fruits, right? And then there are those who just wanna, who are always wanna optimize, right? And make everything work the best it can, you know, avoid future suffering, that kinda thing.

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So that's where I fall.

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Like, I don't really have...

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I had to eat a lot of papaya boats in a very hot climate in order to end up with the boils.

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I am not having boils at the moment.

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You know, I do get the bloat.

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I know what causes the bloat, and I'm gonna share all the bloat tricks with you in this episode.

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so I, I am careful with fruit because I don't like to be gassy, I don't like to be bloated, and I don't like to burp all day.

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So there's things that I avoid now because I've learned through Ayurveda as well as through my own experience, right? So I'm gonna share that, and if you're somebody who finds yourself attaching to rules around food and being restrictive around food, then take a pause, right? Zoom out, step back on the information in this episode, and realize that information like this is useful when there is something that's, like, not working right in your digestion, and you're trying to figure out, you know, what might be contributing to that.

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It's not about, you know, becoming a better person by restricting your, your fruit, right? Or, feeling good about yourself because you're following the rules, right? What happens with rules around food is that we outsource our awareness of what's going on in our bodies and what's going on in our digestion, and we try to just go back to that list, follow it, and then be kind of in this cerebral or intellectual relationship between food and body where you're kind of checked out, and you're not actually paying attention to what you're eating and what kind of reactions that might be causing in your body.

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So that's the issue around the rules, right? And why the information that I would present to you about fruit is not about following these rules.

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It's about understanding the effects that fruit has on the body, right? And specifically the digestion.

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If you wanna do a deep dive into the skin connection that I'm talking about, and digestion, and how sort of not great digestive byproducts can show up in the skin, you're gonna find a lot of that information in Everyday Ayurveda for Women's Health, where I talk about the rakta dhatu, which is that sort of red part of the blood that's circulating under the skin that can very easily become vitiated by a sour quality.

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So a lot of what we're talking about today, the cautionary tale about fruit, has to do with the sour quality in the, digestion, in the ahara rasa, that, that juice of the food that's created in the stomach and small intestine.

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Let me tell you a digestive story.

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So the chef is about to prepare the rice.

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They measure out the water.

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They measure out the rice, right? They boil- start to boil the water, add half of the rice, right? It's cooking.

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20 minutes later, chef decides to add the rest of the rice.

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So the first of the rice was going along, cooking nicely, and then we added some uncooked rice 20 minutes later.

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And so now we're gonna end up with half kind of mushy, putrefied, overcooked rice and half undercooked rice, right? And that is what happens when we are eating things that are sort of digesting at different times in the gut, right? Is that you got the little trapdoor in your stomach that's not gonna open and release the food until everything in the belly is all, you know, in a digested state.

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So the thing about fruit is that it is light, generally fast to digest.

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So that is the reason that fruit causes fermentation in the stomach, is because your fruit might digest in 30 minutes, 45 minutes, and the, your other food, like your granola and your yogurt that you're mixing it with, those are gonna take, you know, an hour and a half, two hours.

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So the fruit starts to ferment in the stomach, starts to ferment in the gut, while th- it's waiting for the rest of the food.

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And that fermentation is what causes the sour, what we call in Ayurveda a sour quality.

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Sour is heating.

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It is hot.

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So then you've got a digestive nutritive precursor moving into circulation in your body that has heating qualities.

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That's why we start to see rashes, boils, itching, redness, skin stuff, and we also can start to see inflammation in the long run.

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And it is why mixing the fruits along with the foods wh- where they're digesting at very different rates, if it's doing, if it's happening often, that means that you're getting this sour, byproduct of digestion often.

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So you probably heard something like, you know, eat fruit by itself.

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You know, and that's where the timing really matters.

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Because fruit is kind of watery, you know, it's quick to digest, it's something that what we ask the fruit to be digested along with is really important.

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That's what really makes the difference about how that fruit is going to affect your body.

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Because the fruit itself is considered a beautiful thing, and I think that's part of why so many people have a charge around fruit, is because either, A You've been taught growing up that you should eat fruit, that it's so good for you, right? And I know, like, it's one of the ways to get, like, fresh high prana food into especially a child's body, where they may not wanna eat, like, broccoli and bitter-tasting things.

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They'll eat the sweet-tasting thing.

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And I think a lot of us as adults are also like that.

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We're reaching for fruit because it's sweet-tasting, and it's pleasant to eat, right? It's like, it feels like it's hydrating.

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It's got all these gorgeous floral flavors, right? And it's a sweet thing.

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So a lot of people I think are having the charge around the fruit because it's a sweet thing that they love to eat, that they also believe is good for them.

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And so everyone's like, "Don't take away my fruit.

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Don't tell me that fruit is bad," right? So if the fruit's digesting well, it's freaking awesome, right? So there's some things that we can do to assist in the digestion of the fruit, one of them is to eat the fruits by themselves on an empty stomach, whether that's in the morning or in the afternoon, like, kind of before dinner.

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You know, let's say it takes at least two hours for whatever's in that stomach to pass through.

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So you wanna kinda make sure you've had several hours before you eat fruit.

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If you want the fruit to be good for you, you should also eat the fruit at a time when you're actually hungry, when you have a digestive fire, right? Whereas I'm gonna guess that some of us are snacking on fruit because it tastes good, and then there's a little voice in your head that's like, "You're not hungry.

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You don't need anything right now," but you're orally fixated or you're stressed out or whatever it is.

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So eat fruit because it's healthy, and then we don't have to feel, you know, bad about snacking because it's fruit.

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Meanwhile, you just threw that uncooked rice in there along with a meal that would've been nicely digested, right, and nourishing to the body.

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But because you just wanted some- something sweet on your tongue, you threw that in there.

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I'd rather have you eat, like, a square of chocolate, to be honest, because it's gonna digest better than a fruit the in there with all this other complicated stuff like a meal, right? So fruit for dessert, fruit when we're not hungry, fruit when there's stuff in your belly already, it's gonna cause that sour thing, right? And it's g- for some people also gonna cause the bloat because fermentation, as you know, creates gases, right? And so then you've got the gases in your gut.

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So you're You know, either you're burping, it's trying to come out.

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That's gonna happen especially for those who maybe have more acid or are eating high-acid fruits.

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You know, you're burping it, or it's going all the way down the tube, and then you've got kind of that lower belly distension.

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So the analogy here, you know, is fruit is like a vegetable that, that cooks in five minutes and, you know, everything else is like a roast, yeah, it's takes three hours, right? And you're putting them in at the same time.

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You wouldn't do that with your cooking, right? You wouldn't, like, put lettuce on top of a steak and put it in the oven for three hours.

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So I think there's that, right? We wanna think about the timing of it.

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And so fruit The heavier and slower to digest the food in your belly is that's being mixed with the fruit, the longer it's gonna sit there and ferment.

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So the foods that do take a little longer to break down are gonna include meats, cheeses, like oily things, nut butters, yogurt, dairy, right? I would say the meats and the dairies, and potentially bread and wheat, those are the kinda heaviest and slowest to digest things.

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So when we are mixing fruit in with those things, it's, the fermentation is gonna be greater.

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And the reason that we in Ayurveda make that special point about mixing fruit and yogurt is because yogurt is already fermented.

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Yogurt is already sour.

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So when we mix it with fruit and allow it to ferment in the gut, you just get like a kind of triple fermentation going on, which, as we've talked about, is gonna create heat, specifically the kind that circulates through the body via the blood.

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So it's a reason to think about, what's going on in the morning, 'cause a lot of Americans anyway are really reliant on fruit and yogurt, and granola.

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So granola would be the oily, heavy thing in there, right? Mixed along with the other two sour things.

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So it's, I think the reason a lot of people eat that for breakfast is 'cause it does sit in your belly for a long time.

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And if you're just eating granola and yogurt without fruit, you're, you feel like you're just eating all this really, like, heavy, oily stuff.

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Like, come on, we gotta lighten it up.

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We gotta balance it, right? So let's add, fruit, right? Berries.

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People love to add their berries, which berries, you know, they have a really high soluble fiber content.

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they in that way kind of will digest a little more harmoniously with the other things in your stomach rather than if you put, like, something really quick to digest like melons in there.

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so, you know, maybe that works better for a lot of people, and I think a lot of people just wanna feel full for a long time and not have to worry about it until they get to the next meal, and that is what the combination of yogurt and granola will do.

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I personally don't put the fruit in.

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If I'm gonna do it, the granola thing with the yogurt, like, I just don't put fruit in it.

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I put seeds on it, you know? Like, I'm trying to add, like, mineral density by putting sunflower seeds on it or hemp seeds, something like that, instead of the fruit, right? So I do eat fruit first thing in the morning.

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that's my jam.

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I'm not a kapha type.

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I do not have excess moisture in my gut to start out the day.

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So one of the cautionary tales you might be hearing about fruit in the morning is that it aggravates kapha dosha, 'cause kapha dosha's, it's heavy and it's watery.

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and fruit is sweet, right? And it's also kind of watery.

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So when a kapha type starts the day with something sweet, it can sit a little bit heavier in the gut.

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And a kapha type in the morning is gonna be better w- actually with a savory breakfast.

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They're gonna be better with something a little spicy, like a f- you know, a spicy kind of soup, or like a brown rice and broccoli with ginger.

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Like, that kind of a thing, which is culturally, in, in the States anyway, not something a lot of people eat for breakfast, you know? so thinking about, you know, the state of your digestion at the time that you would eat the fruit.

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So in the morning, if you're not hungry, or you feel mucusy or heavy, like, then don't have fruit at that time.

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You might need to wait until such time as you have a stronger agni, a stronger digestive fire before you eat that fruit.

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because it is...

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I mean, yes, it digests fast, but it's also sweet, so we don't really wanna spike your blood sugar either.

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So when I do eat the fruit in the morning, I usually have it simply for enjoyment.

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I eat fruit because it is a lovely thing, right? And it's, it's a short season in New England to enjoy, the summer fruits, right? So I tend to eat more fruits in the summer.

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My appetite in the morning tends to be a little bit lighter in the summer because it's not so cold.

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so my body's not needing all this food to kinda keep me warm.

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So I can get away with it, you know, I'll have some cherries or I'll have some peaches.

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I don't mix fruits together.

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Generally, I find that makes me burp and gives me a bloat, and that is because fruits have different qualities.

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As I said, some of them are acidic.

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Some of them are, like a little bit heavier and starchy, right? And I don't mix them all together.

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I enjoy the one fruit that's in season at that time.

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So right now I'm enjoying cherries, and I'll move into peaches, you know, and then I'll move into melons later in the summer.

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And then I'll, in the fall, we move into our apples, you know, and our pears.

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And that's pretty much all of the fruit that's going on.

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And once it's cold out, I have to eat fruit cooked only, or it's too cold for me.

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I'll just feel cold all the time.

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And it will make my belly hurt to eat the cold food.

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New customers get 15% off their purchase One of the questions I got from one of you was, like, how important is fruit? And I was like, that is really the crux here, because everybody's kind of freaking out about needing their fruit in a way that feels a little off to me I don't believe that we need fruit every day in order to be healthy people, right? I believe we need a balanced diet that contains all six tastes, that contains a nice, balancing of the qualities.

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Some things are heavy, some things are light, some things are really nourishing.

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A few of the things there are cleansing.

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So we've got some bitter, we've got some astringent, and then we've got some sweet, right? A little spicy, a little sour for the flavors.

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That's what we want over the course of the day.

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And so do we need to eat fruit every day? No.

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No, we, we really don't.

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I don't think it, it is a necessary thing.

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As I said, I eat fruit because I enjoy it.

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it is one of the bounties and beauties of this earth to enjoy the colors and flavors that are present in fruit.

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It's very unique.

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So I don't wanna miss out on that, right? But it's not going on off-season, that's for sure.

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Ayurveda's very clear about eating the foods that the planet is giving you in your place at that time, and that will have the ultimate digestibility and the ultimate, nutrition for you.

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So when they're in season, I'm eating the things, and then when they're not, I'm not, right? So there's some cooked apples and compotes and things, happening in the wintertime, and that's it.

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I might also eat some dates in the wintertime, but really that's it, right? So I move through the berries and then the stone fruits and then the melons.

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That- and that's how it works, right? Some of you are in, environments where you have tropical fruits all the time.

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A lot of the tropical fruits tend to be a little heavier, a little maybe starchier like mangoes and bananas and plantains.

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papayas are an interesting one.

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Just FYI, they are heating.

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That's why mixing them with the sourness of the yogurt gave me the boils, because papayas are hot.

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And you'll find that with the mango too.

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You know, those of you who've overeaten mangoes in season, you may have gotten the rash, right? The skin rash.

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So there's a little acid there, you know, in the mango.

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Any fruit, any fruit at all, when it's taken before it's fully ripe is going to be sour, and it becomes sweeter as it ripens.

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So Ayurveda's very specific around eating fruits when they're ripe, right? Unless you're doing a specific formulation such as like a green mango chutney that has ginger and sugar and all these other things in it to balance the sour quality, and then you use it as a condiment that's meant to be sour rather than filling your gut with sourness, you know, by eating like piles of citrus fruits, for example.

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So- The banana.

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Let us talk about the banana.

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So, you know, I have a friend who tells this story that his yoga teacher, was watching all the yoga students, like, eating bananas af- all the time, right? and a lot of people are attached to their banana because bananas are very filling, and bananas digest slow, right? And then everybody's, you know, freaking out about the potassium and whatever, so you need your banana.

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I understand if you have kids that you want them to eat bananas.

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I get it, right? You want children to eat things that do not come out of bags and boxes, and that's where the fruit comes in, so go for it.

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And kids generally, unless they're having digestive problems, kids generally, because of, you know, the activity and the hormonal activity, like, they're generally having a good agni, and can eat all the things, right? And even mix things together and, you know, especially if they're active.

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So don't worry so much about what your kids are doing with the fruit unless they're having a skin or a digestive thing, in which case it might be helpful to think about some of these things.

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Right, but the banana, people are attached to the banana because again, it fills you up, and it's so freaking easy to stick a banana in your bag, right? So if you're gonna eat a banana...

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The story my friend's yoga teacher said was he told all the students, like, "Stop eating all these bananas, kids."

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He said, "If, if I took a banana and I took it to the cremation grounds and I put the banana in the fire, it won't burn.

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It'll still be there."

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Right? Which may not be true.

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But the analogy was to say that's how slow and hard bananas are to digest.

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So when I think about bananas, one of the things that I notice personally with bananas is that I burp for hours after I eat one, which tells me it's still in my stomach, and that's very true.

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So that's even when I have a banana by itself.

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So I've learned through experimentation that if I'm gonna have a banana, I need to have it by itself, or else I will burp, burp, burp for six hours.

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And if I have it by itself, I need to wait more than an hour, hour and a half, maybe even two hours before mixing anything, 'cause that banana's gonna still be in my belly, and whatever I put in there, we're gonna have banana burps for hours after that.

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Now, I was really attached, friends.

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When I started studying Ayurveda, I was somebody who was putting frozen bananas in smoothies every day, along with yogurt, and fruits, and green powders, and all the things, right? So another thing I think a lot of people have fallen into is depending on the blender to give them nutrition, right? So everything's getting thrown into a blender in the morning because we just can't take the time to nourish the body and think about nourishment for the day.

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So we're just trying to load our macros into a blender so we can get it in our face without even having to sit down and chew.

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So it's Ayurvedically abominable to mix all those things together like that, and then stick 'em in your face while you're doing something else, right? So I've gotten down to the three-ingredient smoothie rule, which I talk about in The Everyday Ayurveda Cookbook.

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I even give you smoothie recipes in that book which are Ayurvedically correct.

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So I took the bananas out of the smoothies.

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The burps went away, right? So much better.

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I took the dairy out of the smoothies, so now it's gotta be, chia seed, and a fruit, and maybe a bit of, if I want it creamy, a bit of coconut milk, or I'll put in like a splash of pomegranate juice or something like that.

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And that's it.

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You know, I'm not throwing all this stuff in smoothies anymore.

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I'm committed to getting macros, getting nutrition from the food that I sit down and eat at meals.

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If you're gonna take anything home from today's episode, think about that, right? What are the obstacles in your days to you sitting down and having nourishing meals? And it's gonna take some time to unpack those obstacles, because a lot of them probably aren't in your control.

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However, have you given a backseat to the importance of sitting down and eating warm food, right? Have you just said, "Well, let's take that off the table 'cause all these other things need to happen"? Not a great move.

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You know, just across the board, not a great move.

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So step one is to prioritize getting nutrition from the meals that you sit down and eat.

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Just start making it a priority e- even if it's just in your mind and heart, and allow the changes to follow from there, right? Otherwise, here you are with your banana for your potassium, And your Greek yogurt for the protein, your green powder, you know, your protein powder.

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It's all going into this mélange.

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So If it feels great to you and you don't have any digestive disorders or skin disorders, then you can bookmark this information for a later time where something starts bothering you, and then you can turn your attention towards, is this fruit smoothie thing working for me or not? In the meantime, as I said, if you're feeling great, then something you're doing is working, right? So the banana is heavy, heavy, heavy.

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If you're gonna eat it, it'll digest better and you'll actually get that potassium you're looking for.

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But if you just kinda have it by itself, you know, not with a quart of water at the same time, because the, that banana is cool, heavy, and moist.

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It really opposes the qualities of digestive fire, so your digestion has to work to break that banana down and make it into something nutritious for your body.

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If we throw a bunch of water down in there too with that cool, heavy, moist thing called the banana, it can definitely create a water logging of the digestion, which Ayurveda texts say would make a person stout.

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All right? Which many, many of you probably aren't looking for stout.

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It's probably not in the top of your body qualities that you're trying to manifest, right? So the stoutness, the bloating, the gas, the burping, right? Look for these things, you know, when you're mixing, and potentially, the banana, is it working for you? The other fruit that gets special mention is the melon.

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So melons are incredibly sweet, light, and fast to digest.

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They are the fastest to digest.

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So if I'm going to eat a melon, I am gonna get bloated no matter what, but I definitely...

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When melons are in season, I just eat the melon, right? \And it's super light so I'm still hungry, you know? So I'll eat the melon, then I'll wait, half an hour, and then eat something else.

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Watermelon, the honeydew, the cantaloupe, all of those things are, not something you wanna eat for dessert.

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You know, it makes me crazy when they garnish your brunch plates.

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So there you are in the morning with all this heavy food, and then melon, which the reason they put it there is 'cause of the color, right? It's pretty.

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It looks nice.

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And you would feel that is light and refreshing when you chew it after having, you know, eggs or home fries and potatoes and that sort of thing.

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So just don't eat it.

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Okay? If they're giving you slices of melon alongside heavy food, just, just leave it there, right? And when the, watermelon's going around at the barbecue and you've already had hot dogs, and bread, and chips, and sour cream dips, and all these things, just skip the watermelon.

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Right? Just have it at another time where there isn't all that other stuff also happening.

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Just be one with the watermelon.

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Really show up for that melon when it's in season and enjoy it, and digest it well.

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Allow its positive qualities to actually be transmuted.

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It only takes about a half an hour, right? So the melons, you know, I can tell the bloat.

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It is almost instantaneous, the bloat.

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And something like watermelon, it does have a bit of a laxative quality, so then you've got, It's nice, you know? But it's gonna move through you a lot faster and create that, that cleansing quality if you just let it do its thing and not compound it with all this other food at the same time.

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So the melons are great, like, before dinner, where you haven't eaten for a while and it's gonna take you an hour to make the food, so you need something.

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So that's a great time to have your fruit, your melon, maybe even a banana, you know, as long as you've got, like, at least an hour before you're gonna eat.

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Uh, I like that.

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I like the before, before dinner tide-me-over fruit thing, and then I like it in the morning as well.

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so when it's cooked, you're gonna notice that a lot of my books include recipes that have fruit cooked into them.

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I get a lot of emails about that.

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"Why is that in your book?" So when you cook the fruit together with the food, it's pre-digesting all together.

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They're working out their differences in the pot there.

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And so y- I find that I don't get as much of the bloating, burping, et cetera, when the fruit is cooked in with food.

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It's still not something I'm doing often or every day.

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It's more of kind of a, a treat.

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but you know, in the wintertime, if there's dried fruits, you know, you, maybe you're chopping up dates or apricots or putting raisins in things.

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Again, if you're bloated, look there.

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If you're not bloated, then it's working for you, right? And it's the same with the cooked fruit.

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If you cook fruit in with food, like an apple crisp, you know, and it feels fine, great.

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When I eat apple crisp, I tend to not have it for dessert, but I tend to have it as a meal, because I do think it's kind of, a lot to digest.

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You know? So I'll have it, like a big pile of that, and just enjoy it, and b- be one with the apple crisp, right? And let it digest rather than, again, mixing everything together.

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All right, friends.

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So we have talked about the importance of eating seasonal fruit.

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We have talked about the importance of not combining fruit with foods that take a long time to digest, and in that way, you can actually get all the nutrition that you're craving from your fruit, right? And have it actually be a good thing that's digesting in your body.

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However, if you're someone who has a heavy, damp stomach in the morning, that's not a great time to eat fruit.

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You probably wanna go for something warming, like a little pungent, something gingery, something that's served warm, something that's savory, and that'll work better for you at that time.

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Maybe try your fruit, you know, several hours after lunch, you know, or like an hour or so before dinner to tide you over while you wait for that meal.

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But you might just be someone who needs to get the digestion a little bit stronger before putting the really sweet food in there, like fruit We talked about how yogurt is already sour, and so when you mix it with the quickly fermenting fruit in the gut, it creates a sourness in the digestion that moves into circulation through the body and increases heat, which may show up in skin, it may show up in inflammation, inflammatory stories, right? Something to think about.

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And we've talked about the banana.

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And how bananas are, they are starchy, heavy, slow to digest.

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And so have them, you know, by themselves.

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Don't drink a ton of water along with it, and let it digest for at least an hour.

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If you're burping and tasting that mango or that banana or whatever it is, that's telling you something, right? So watch the burps.

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Watch the burp tastes, right, to give you information.

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And keep in mind that mixing fruit with the really heavy stuff like your bread, your meats, and your dairy, especially when the fruit is raw, when it's uncooked, that's when we might see, more digestive byproducts from it.

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We talk about how melons are the fastest and lightest and most sweet.

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So have them by themselves.

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Really let your body get the goods out of that, and then follow it.

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Don't starve after, right? 'Cause you're still gonna be hungry.

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Then you follow it with a meal an hour or so, you know, after you had the melon.

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And that can take a little bit of planning.

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Little bit of planning, right? Remember to eat the fruit when you're actually hungry.

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Snacking on fruit when there's food in your stomach from a previous meal or a previous snack is gonna be fermentation city, which is gonna give you the bloat.

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All right? Give that fruit a little space.

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And finally, pay attention to your body, how your body feels, right? Rather than just trying to follow the rules.

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And to make your fruit happy, remember to prioritize ripeness rather than the really sour and unripe fruit.

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Remember that you can cook your fruit.

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You can cook your fruit along with your food, and that will make it easier.

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Remember that smoothies are a little bit kind of cold and damp and hard to digest as it is.

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So when we're mixing dairies and powders and all these kind of, micronutrients in with the fruits in the blender, better to just keep that really simple.

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And then it's about your body and your paying attention to it that's really gonna give you the info, right, about how fruit is working for you.

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And in general- I feel that people are obsessed with fruit, and it's really unnecessary to be obsessed with fruit because you think it's, like, so good for you, and you have to make sure you get your fruit, Make sure you get all the thing, all the tastes, you know, mixed together in a lovely way almost every day.

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Yeah, you can't hit it every day, but you try to get, like, well-rounded meals, and that's really what it is.

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And it's, it's when we're missing that we start getting weird about food, right? And we start getting a charge about, "I need this and I need that," right? 'Cause your body's like, "Ah, we need this, this, this, and this because you're not sitting down and giving me meals, so I need my fruit, goddammit."

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Right? So I hope this helps.

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If it's created more fruit questions for you, you can drop those via email.

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You can send, give a comment right here on your podcast platform.

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You can pop it on my Instagram, kateodonnell.ayurveda.

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Let's keep the fruit talk going if necessary.

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We're gonna keep, you know, beating that fruit horse un- until we all feel like we understand how fruit works in our bodies, right? And what are the happy ways to love and be one with our seasonal fruits.

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Thanks so much for being on the journey with me, and I'll see you next time on Everyday Ayurveda with Kate.

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