106. Soil Health and Your Health: Pat Miletich on What Your Food Was Grown In

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Welcome pod pal to today's episode where we are talking about what our food was grown in.

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I keep coming back to the soil.

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We've had a lot of alternative practitioners on in the last couple seasons.

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You know, we hear a lot about, kind of toxins that are lodged in the body, maybe a lack of biodiversity in the digestion.

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everyone's started talking about microbiome in the mouth, in the gut, and also deficiencies, right? So we've had some conversations on this podcast about blood work, and some people are finding nutrient deficiencies.

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And potentially I'm seeing more of these kinds of things than I used to, you know, 10 and 20 years ago as a practitioner.

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And I have, over the last couple years, I keep circling back to the question of, what was the food we are eating grown in? Is our food full power? Because if our food is not full power, we will not feel full power.

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So all this time, friends, that we spent talking about, what we're eating, I do think we need to go a little deeper with that.

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And soil isn't just dirt.

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It's a living ecosystem filled with microorganisms and fungus and minerals, and there's extraordinary web of relationships in there that according to Ayurveda, and a- also according to our guest today, is really not only an allegory, but actually the reality of our bodies as organisms, is that we are just a part of that macrocosm.

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We're a part of this extraordinary web of relationship between the soil and the food that's grown on it, any animals that eat those plants that then might be a part of your food chain, right? And I'm really excited about it.

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Interestingly, my guest today, Pat Miletich, he came to this subject from a rather unexpected place.

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So some of you may actually have heard his name before as a UFC champion, a martial arts coach, and an elite athlete.

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But what I was really interested in hearing from him about soil health, which is really his mission in life now and his time as a, martial arts hall of famer is he kinda talks about it as a past life.

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And his interest in human health and performance and coaching has actually led him down this path into, how do we heal the soil that's growing the food and also the herbal medicines that we're then using to heal our bodies? So it's a fantastic conversation.

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We've got some very actionable kinda take-home thoughts for those of you who garden as well as those of you who don't, right? So what can each of us do to be a part of the solution here globally a- and in our own backyards, rooftops, et cetera? So- Don't miss this one.

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Let's do this.

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Welcome to the podcast, Pat Miletich.

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We're very excited to have you today.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate you having me.

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It's, really nice to have a diversity of folks with a lot of different expertise invite me on, and certainly your expertise is one that I welcome Yeah, fabulous.

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likewise.

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You know, soil health is something that has been on my mind for a few years, and I can't say I've done a deep dive, so we're definitely looking to learn a lot from you today.

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the first thing that kind of struck me about you, Pat, though, was, most people know you as a UFC champion, a martial arts coach, elite athlete, of many years, kind of Hall of Famer.

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And then I'm seeing you as the soil health guy, So I'm interested in, how...

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your interest in performance kind of got you into wellness, and then wellness got you all the way back to what we grow our medicine in.

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Is that accurate? I think, yeah, somewhat.

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And more than anything, I think my desire growing up in a community, the community of Bettendorf, Iowa, the Quad Cities, Iowa, Illinois Quad Cities, it was a conveyor belt of athletes going into Division I schools for a multitude of sports.

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And I just wanted to be a great wrestler, a great football player.

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my community produced some of the best wrestlers and football players in the nation, of course.

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And so my desire to be a great athlete was hindered by my respiratory illness my whole childhood.

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So it was very frustrating for me to put in a lot of work.

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I was working what, to me, seemed like twice as hard as everybody else to not get the results that I expected.

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Was I a good wrestler and football player? Yes.

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But every wrestling match was spent suffocating, breathing through what felt like a straw full of mucus, and it was just not a great experience, right? So not necessarily pleasurable.

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So anyway, once I got to the point where I was gonna turn professional in kickboxing after I had left school to take care of my ailing mother, it was when I decided that, if I'm gonna fight like this, I'm gonna get sent to the hospital if I can't breathe.

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that's not gonna work out well.

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So I did a lot of research, and that research led to a protocol that I put together for myself, and from the start of the protocol to the time that I went from breathing through a straw full of mucus, what it felt like, to a crystal clear PVC tube was 10 days.

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Oh, wow.

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All the inflammation was gone out of my respiratory system.

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And so that led me on a journey, of course, 40 years later, here I am talking to you, of soil to human health, environment, how the environment affects all the organisms that live in the host organism, on the host organism, Earth.

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And so it's, a never-ending learning process, I guess.

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Yeah.

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And so you're from kind of US farm country.

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I am from the epicenter of the cancer problems and everything else.

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Yeah, Bettendorf, Iowa, the Corn Belt, soybeans, things like that.

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And so yeah, it's an epidemic.

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It's far past an epidemic at this point.

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Right.

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And so do you attribute your respiratory problems to fertilizer, pesticide, toxins in your environment growing up? Certainly that played a part in it.

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I was drinking tap water.

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I was eating food that was probably not the best food, growing up, things like that.

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Just nobody had the knowledge, that...

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Well, very few anybody, but at this point, everybody has sat in their pain long enough to realize that we've got big problems on our hands.

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But back in the, '70s and '80s, people just weren't aware of the severity.

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Right.

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So you, it sounds like you, you put together this protocol.

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Was that, herbal medicine or detoxification, all of the above? It was combinations of- Colloidal silver, colloidal copper, a lot of antioxidants from berries and fruit and a few other components that I put together that worked miraculous.

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it was, the speed of which it worked...

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And you know how I found out that it worked is 10 days after I started the protocol, I was sparring with some of the best boxers in the world at the time, working on my boxing skills for kickboxing.

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And I had sparred with the number one pound for pound boxer in the world, or future number one pound for pound boxer in the world, Michael Nunn.

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Normally I could do about three rounds with guys at that level, and I'd just get too exhausted.

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Well, I went 10 rounds, and he looked at me and he goes, "I don't know what's going on with you, but keep doing what you're doing."

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And I just said, I think I've solved my respiratory issues."

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And that, of course, changed the trajectory of my life, which I want, people to be aware of, right? I want people to have the benefit of that.

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And I know, I, from memory, you dealt with some health issues as well and kind of went down your own path, correct? Right.

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I spent a lot of time in India since I was 19.

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I started kind of spending, a season, three, four, five, six months there at a time over the years.

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And I would notice that I was really hungry over there, that's where I actually learned about nutrition and food and Ayurveda, and started focusing on cooking.

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like, food as medicine.

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That was what I was learning from my Ayurvedic physician over there.

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So I'm going to the markets, I'm buying the food, and, I'm really doing everything I can, but I was still hungry all, all the time.

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I had the dark circles under my eyes, and just didn't feel full power.

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Then I would come home and eat the same diet really, but feel better, and see those problems resolve.

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and I started to realize that there's something about...

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you know sometimes you go to a grocery store and the food all looks like it's sad? And then you go into a- Yeah at a different time of year or another store, and the food's all, like, glowing and vibrant and happy.

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So I started to look at that, And just recently, Pat, I met a couple who are, farming.

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They're doing experimental farming here in the state of Maine, and they're, really specializing on the microorganisms in the soil- Okay and kind of regenerating that soil and growing food.

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And we started chatting, and she said, "Oh, yeah, my husband and I lived in a remote place in India for 10 years."

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and I said, "Oh my God," "were you hungry all the time?" And she said, "Yes."

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She said, "And that's why, 'cause we were up there and there was...

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Like, we had to make our own food."

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And so that was- Wow where her and her husband started kind of l- learning how to regenerate soil, started a farm, and kind of, like, regenerated their own health and the health of the community where they were living and working.

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So that was where I was like, "Okay, the soil is the thing."

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Like, that's the key, you know? And especially 'cause I still do- Yeah spend a lot of time in India.

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I intend to retire there, so it's like on my mind that the food that I'm growing old eating, the community where I intend to live is trying to do all this work to regenerate soil, which is such a big problem in a lot of parts of India.

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Right.

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Right.

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No, and that's the...

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I'm surprised that you came back from India and felt more nourished here in America, because our soil has been so severely destroyed, right? So 90 years ago, basically, Senate Document 264, I'm sure you're probably aware of it, but a lot of people aren't, Senate Document 264 that was read into the minutes of the United States Senate in 1936, the experts were already saying that American soil was so depleted that we could simply not eat enough food to get the nutrients that we desperately need, right? So that was almost 100 years ago.

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Now, fast-forward 90 years plus, and all we have to do is go out in public, go to a mall, go into a city center, and we can observe the mental, hormonal, and physical destruction taking place in America because of the nutrient deficiencies.

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And then now add on top of that the toxicities of the synthetics that are used to grow food, right? Is it correct, Pat, that we saw that problem, let's say, 100 years ago, and then started developing chemical fertilizers to try to put back into the soil what had naturally been there before? Yeah, and I like to give people historical references.

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So if we go back to 1913 in Germany, the Haber-Bosch method of synthesizing nitrogen was invented, I believe 1908, 1909.

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1913 is when it was widespread, began the use of those chemicals on German soil.

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By 1928, cancer had taken over as the number one killer over tuberculosis in Germany.

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By the 1930s, private healthcare was taken over by the state.

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70% of the population in Germany were on pharmaceuticals in the 1930s, and we know where Germany ended up.

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it was a, a lot of people with mental illness, hormonal illness, physical illness.

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So it's important for Americans to understand if those numbers resonate with Americans.

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We've been doing that to our soil for 50 years, a billion acres of our soil.

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70% of the American population is on pharmaceuticals as well, and here we are.

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We've been in perpetual wars for 100 years, right? So we just have to take a step back and think about what we're doing to our soil, the host organism, the earth, and how that's affecting the organisms that live on that, because we're one of the organisms living on the host organism.

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As we destroy it, we thusly destroy ourselves and our children.

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Right.

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Which I always f- I would always come to the conclusion that a lot of the illnesses that we're seeing potentially had to do with, toxins in our environment, and then I start looking towards food.

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And so the thing everyone has been gravitating towards for decades now is organic food, and think- feeling like that's the answer.

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And now I'm like moving to another layer here w- with soil, where I'm realizing that it- it's, you can't just trust that when you try to get the right food, that you're gonna get food that's alive, you know- Right and that's gonna feed- Right feed your body.

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So in a community with, like this podcast, where we talk so much about food and nutrition, it feels like, okay, now we're at the central point, which is where we grow our food, right? I feel like soil health is becoming a term we hear more, but I'm not sure what we're talking about.

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so how do you wanna start breaking down, like what is soil health? I'll start by talking about human health.

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So read a book...

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For people out there that, that have not read it before, read a book called Dead Doctors Don't Lie by Dr.

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Joe Wallach, and also another book called Minerals for the Genetic Code.

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Super important for folks to read those.

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There's many other great books that I've read, but those books are, really important for people to read.

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When we understand and read through those books, we'll realize that humans need 60-plus minerals, 90-plus elements to basically have proper what we consider genetic expression or immune function to operate at optimum level.

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Well, when then we go over to the regenerative agriculture people, and we won't even talk conventional ag because that's three components generally, the nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium, right? Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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They might add some calcium here and there, a few other things.

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But for the most part, they're only using three to grow food or plants.

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So if we're going to pull our food from the soil, whether it's plants or animals that eat the plants, w- where are the nutrients gonna come from if they don't come from the soil? So all of those elements that I talk about that humans need have to be in the soil.

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They have to be derived in the soil and end up in the plants, and go up that food chain So therefore, if I look at soil that has a bacterial infection or a fungal infection or there's insects coming in and eating a crop or weeds growing everywhere, all of those are symptoms of sick soil.

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So a depleted soil that doesn't have enough nutrients will have weeds on it because weeds, medicinal herbs, pull nutrients from the atmosphere that are missing in the soil.

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And when they die and decompose, they will put those back into the soil.

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So how many years does it take for soil to heal that way? A lot more than we've got time, right? Mm-hmm.

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also metals, minerals, metals from the rocks below are releasing molecules and the organisms in the soil are supposed to release exudates to bond those with carbon and turn it from an inorganic metal into an organic metal or what's called a colloid mineral, right? So th- from the top and the bottom, the soil's being healed this way.

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And the diversity of nutrients in the soil is gonna dictate the immune function of the plants that grow and the immune function of the animals that are eating the grass, for instance, the cows that are eating the grass and the soil.

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So that has to go up that food chain correctly.

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And so it always starts at the soil, the host organism, the earth.

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And the mineral deposits around the world are so plentiful that we can put those minerals back on the soil with the diversity of soil-borne probiotics, the organisms that have the ability to convert those metals into organic metals, and we can heal soil over and over and over.

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And that is the sustainable way of doing things.

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So is it these microorganisms that convert the minerals? Is that's what is missing? there's a lot of mineral deficiency in the vast majority of American soil.

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Yes.

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or it's locked up.

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But for the most part, it's deficient.

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And yes, the organisms through herbicides and fungicides and synthetic fertilizers have been destroyed.

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The populations have been destroyed, right? Mm-hmm.

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So super important for people to understand that if we understand how nature works, how the divine process works, if we take the- All the diversity of nutrients and put them back in the soil, take the biology that we've created in digesters around the country and put those back in the soil, everything comes back to life, right? And then there is a massive reduction in fungal and bacterial infections, insect pressure, and weed pressure.

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Mm-hmm.

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Are these Infections, is it the same thing that kinda happens in like a human gut? That when one thing dies off, then another has an overgrowth? Is that how we're seeing these, what you're calling infections in the soil? Yeah.

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For Instance, when a person goes to the doctor for, an infection and they get antibiotics, which means anti-life, right? Yeah.

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now look at the state of Iowa where I'm from.

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14 lakes were closed because of E.

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coli outbreaks, a bacterial outbreak in the water.

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So they deem through germ theory that the E.

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coli are dangerous, right? Well, they don't back it up a little bit and talk about the 50-plus million gallons and pounds of synthetic chemicals that are used on Iowa farmlands, that every time it rains, some of that runs off into streams, creeks, rivers, and into these lakes, causing that imbalance, therefore forcing nature to explode a bacterial population to digest the problems and bring it back into balance, right? Mm-hmm.

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So infections happen because of nutrient deficiencies and toxicities.

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We know that.

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And so if we put the balance and the diversity back in, even the microorganisms, the probiotics that police the other populations, called bacteriophages, everything is kept in check and in parameters and they find their balance, and that's really how vitality and power is created.

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Oh, wow.

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you're killing me here, because this is the same conversation that has come to the forefront the last couple years of the microbiome.

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So in alternative health conversations, suddenly it's come to this question of, having diversity basically in your gut, you know, and in your mouth- Right and all of this whole kind of interior of the body.

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So you're describing really the exact same process in the soil.

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Yeah, and all of these nutrients and all of the diversity of biology, it should be thousands of different types of bacteria, thousands of different types, or at least minimum hundreds of types of mycelium, the fungal, you know, populations to police each other and keep everything in check.

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What digests our food? Does our stomach and our stomach acid digest it? it helps break it down, but ultimately it's the fungi and the bacteria that do the digesting, and conversion of those elements, those nutrients into bioavailable nutrients that go into our system and that our cells desperately need, right? Right.

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So it's the s- the soil, that lake, a plant that's sick with a fungal problem or a bacterial infection, and a human being or a cow are all literally the same, because we're derived from our host organism, the Earth, and the host organism has to be maintained and kept healthy.

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Yeah, it...

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I mean, now that you break it down, it feels kind of obvious to me that that's how this works, right? Yeah.

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When we talk about medicinal herbs, because, your listeners are very in tune with that, when the soil is deficient in magnesium and iron and calcium, for instance, what do you get? A lot of dandelions, at least where they grow indigenously, right? So it's the same thing if I'm nutrient deficient in those things.

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If I make a tea consistently from dandelions and I drink that, all of a sudden my symptoms start to diminish or go away because that's what I was deficient in.

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It's the exact same thing with soil and why tho- those herbs are gonna grow there.

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Right.

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So if the soil, is sick, you know, what, kind of symptoms might we see in the plants, in the animals that eat the plants, the soil itself? Yeah, well, you'll see cattle that are susceptible to all kinds of different illnesses, right? Because they're eating grass or grain that's grown with synthetic chemicals.

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cows should not eat grain to begin with.

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They're ruminants.

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They eat grass- Right and herbs, right? That's what they're supposed to eat.

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When you feed them grains, you cause all kinds of problems.

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When you feed them grains grown with synthetic chemicals, you cause even more problems, and downstream problems, right? So super important for people to understand that.

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There was a test done where- Turkey or chicken manure was used to grow cabbage.

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The cabbage was grown with the chicken manure.

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The chicken were fed grain grown with synthetic chemicals.

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So the cabbage grew, then the cabbage was shipped to someone who creates sauerkraut.

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They started the fermentation process, and all the biology, the bacteria that normally, aids and creates that fermentation process to create the sauerkraut, it all just fell apart.

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Everything went bad.

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And so they were wondering, and they had to go upstream to find the problem.

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They eventually got to the chicken manure of the chickens that were fed the grains that were grown with synthetic chemicals, and the glyphosate had gone through the chickens into the lettuce, then into the digesters and killed the bacteria, the life that existed in the sauerkraut fermentation Right, right.

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So it's the same thing when our food is grown i- in a- Yeah a soil that's deficient, then we have these deficiencies.

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Yeah, and people that are having problems with digestion and all- Yeah kinds of other problems, but we'll start with digestion, you don't have the diversity of biology probiotics in your body that are supposed to be in our soil that aren't anymore.

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And so therefore, you're not digesting your food correctly.

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You're getting indigestion.

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You're getting all kinds of other inflammatory responses.

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The symptoms are not the problem, right?.

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We always have to go deeper and think, what are the causes of the symptoms? We have to go to the root cause.

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Mm-hmm.

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which is the soil, right? It's sounding like, more and more.

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That was kinda my hunch.

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I'm getting a sense that there's this, like a whole world of alternative farming going on, where there's research happening, like the cabbage experiment with the chickens, right? It's...

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Is that- Yeah how we're getting this information, through experimentation? I think we're getting that information, one, through, yes, some experimentation, but also through a lot of old world knowledge that's been handed down.

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You know, I was very blessed to be sick my whole childhood, and then search for answers, and speak with a lot of homeopaths and old-school folks who had knowledge from the past of how to grow food the right way.

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And I started...

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There's pictures of me on my grandmother and Grandpa's farm in the garden at about two years old with a hoe in my hand, and just starting with my grandma.

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At about sixth grade is when I created gardens in my mother's backyard and started gardening.

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And even back then, We had three dogs.

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I used dog manure for the nutrients- Oh, wow in sixth grade, right? So I was already learning, and remembering things, from either past lives or from the experiences of my grandmother or Wherever it was coming from, it was showing up.

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Right.

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So y- your interest in farming has kind of moved along in tandem with your athletic career.

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It's not like it happened after.

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It's always been there.

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Yeah, and I think you get to a point where you understand when you're so focused on high performance, and then through my coaching career of observing athletes and I thought, well, if these elements that I've put into my body can take a person who was sick his whole life and turn him into a world champion and have endless amounts of endurance and the ability to recover from really intense workouts, what's it going to do for athletes that aren't sick to begin with? And so I observed them all go to new levels that, you know, when fighters from around the world would travel to my gym to train with us, they would leave usually most of them in about two or three days because they'd go, this is too intense.

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I wasn't ready for this."

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And these, these athletes were, most of them were already professional fighters.

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So they would show up into a world of 50 world-ranked fighters in one room, and the pace of the training was so intense, and every person that you had to go against was a world-class athlete, that you never got a break.

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You just don't get a break.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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You have to be ready for that level of intensity.

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And it does come down to what's being put in those, biological organisms' bodies, how they're gonna be able to perform, how they're gonna have better endurance, how they're gonna recover better, better use of oxygen, all those types of things that just creates a better human being.

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Right.

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So in your years of coaching, The people you're coaching, would you be, like providing food for them or helping them source their food? No, I would point them in the right direction generally in terms of supplementation and advising them, what we really need to be putting in our bodies food-wise.

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we have to remember as time has gone on, when I started my journey,, you could still find berries and fruit and vegetables that were grown with a lot of nutrients.

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People were still doing that.

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Cost-effectiveness and the bottom line has affected people in a way, food producers, to go the cheapest, easiest route.

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That's the human tendency, right? And what that's ended up w- causing is now 95% of our food is grown with synthetic chemicals.

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So the antioxidant properties of a berry, for instance, are reduced generally 70%.

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So the healing powers of a plant are literally destroyed, and you're adding the toxicity that those antioxidants would've normally out of your cells to begin with.

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So you're, kind of hitting it from both sides with damaging, your own cellular production, your DNA, your mitochondria.

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all, all the way around, the sphere of attack.

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So we're talking about toxicity, not only deficiencies.

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Yeah, in the soil and in the humans.

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And in the water, of course.

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it's in our water.

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If you look at your area's water, you can look up on websites the actual, and what they even test for.

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But in my hometown of Bettendorf, Iowa, the water there is so toxic that most of the cancer-causing chemicals that they even test for are 400 times the amount that even the EPA would deem, acceptable, right? So we're on all fronts, the air, the water, the food, being bombarded with toxins and nutrient deficiencies- We have to shore it up with supplementation.

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We have to, If we have the ability, grow our own food with a diversity of nutrients and biology and really address these problems for our kids' sake, right? Not only for our sake, but for our children so that they develop correctly, so that they don't end up caught in that net of the systems that, that have caused so many problems as well.

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Right.

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I feel like we probably have a lot of listeners who try pretty hard to source organic or even regenerative foods and herbal medicines.

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What do those terms mean in, in this context? Could someone assume if they're buying organic that it will have, say, higher antioxidants, more minerals in it? Generally, they will.

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But here's where the disconnect is, the compartmentalization of education, right? So there's soil scientists, there's crop scientists, there's agronomists, there's horticulturalists, there's medical doctors, there's veterinarians, there's...

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all the compartmentalization of education.

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I am not different than the soil.

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I'm really not.

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Once you understand how to heal your soil, you'll understand a lot about how to address your own problems, right? So when we talk about regenerative agriculture, again, they're talking about a max of 17 minerals to grow plants properly.

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And when they say that, I'll ask them, "Well, where's the other 40?" And they'll go, "What do you mean? What do you mean the other 40? We don't even test for more than that."

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And I go, "Well, if a human needs 60-plus minerals, where's it going to come from?" And we kind of circle back to what we talked about earlier.

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And the regenerative ag people look at me like I have three heads.

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And this has gone on for years.

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I've had meetings at university ag departments and w- talked with a lot of different people, where they're now, you know, a golf course manager who was trained at a university in Iowa in their ag department looked at me like I had three heads when we first had conversations five, six years ago.

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Now he calls me up and goes, we're doing everything almost completely chemical-free now, Pat.

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We've changed everything that we're doing.

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The golf course looks amazing.

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The root systems are going much deeper."

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all of these different things.

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And I'll be going back there, to do some more tests and lay down some minerals and some biology to raise the level of that golf course even more.

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Because- I want my kids to be able to play barefoot in grass, right? No more of those signs in the HOA neighborhoods that say, "Don't let your children or pets in the yard for 72 hours because of chemicals."

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It's- Right I want my kids out there rolling around barefoot, and I want them to pull up those nutrients and the probiotics out of the environment.

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Right.

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That's one of the things we hear about now is grounding, which i- to walk without shoes, on soil, on grass.

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Or forest bathing.

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to go and, rest your body in the energy of a forest.

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And I've had, a former naval surgeon who's a really well-known name, a doctor, who couldn't figure out why she was getting sick.

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Well, she did all of her gardening in the past barefoot.

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there's tons of chemicals in their garden, tons of chemicals in the lawn, all kinds of stuff.

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And then she went and had metal toxicity tests done.

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Well, she had massive amounts of heavy metals in her system.

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she was pulling it up through the bottom of her feet.

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So if you're gonna go grounding, make sure you know what soil you're walking around in.

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So it gets to feel like a pretty big problem.

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what is the answer? How does an individual help heal? So we, I think, feel like we've got two groups of people listening, the ones who garden and the ones who don't.

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Sure.

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So I'd love to speak to both of those people.

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I personally have a two by eight garden.

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I live in sort of a suburban town, and that's, my challenge, is to have this two by eight.

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But my goal, even before meeting you, was to kind of overhaul that and, pull that out and start again and redo it.

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So first thing is Like, say somebody says, "Pat, I have this little backyard garden.

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wanna grow the healthiest food possible.

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I wanna be a part of making the soil better for future generations, like, say, in my own yard."

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Like, what would you tell us to do? Where do we start? Great question.

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Go to soilsaviors.org,

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and a pop-up will pop up on your screen right away, and it's your ability to take the art and science of soil course.

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So you just put in your email.

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We'll send you emails of videos that you can watch periodically.

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And once you get through that course, by the time you get out the other side of that course, you'll have such a better understanding of your environment, of your garden, of what's going on in your environment and how that's affecting you, that you'll wanna change it.

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Then obviously we offer the tools, the boxes.

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We have a zero to five acre box all the way up to a 20 to 40 acre box.

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Now, the zero to five acre box you can use on your garden, and we'll send you a box over and over and over again because those packages and bottles can be resealed.

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Alls you have to do is measure, put it in water, stir it up, let the biology, the probiotics bloom in population, and the nutrients are in there already.

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Then you just put it in a sprayer and you spray your plants and your soil, and those probiotics start to break down toxins in the soil, start to feed n- real nutrients to the plants.

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And a lot of people end up with Jurassic sized gardens because of it.

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00:34:34,418.3219777 --> 00:34:46,897.9886444
And when you taste and I have to say this We just had food and soil experts come to the farm here, and they had just left, a place in Iowa that grows organic food with their seed deposits.

304
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They collect seeds there.

305
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That's what they do for a living.

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They had a tomato testing there and some other vegetables.

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00:34:53,370.9886444 --> 00:34:58,877.9886444
They tasted the tomatoes here, and they said, "This tastes like it's a fruit that came off of a tree."

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And I said, "Yes, our taste buds are for a reason.

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They're telling us what we need, what we desperately need."

310
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And then I just pulled the first watermelon out of the garden, cut it open.

311
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And I look forward to this every year.

312
00:35:12,158.9886444 --> 00:35:18,841.9886444
The watermelon, the flavor of the watermelon tastes like the most divine candy that you've ever eaten in your life.

313
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So for those people that are eating watermelon and remember as a kid it used to taste better.

314
00:35:23,688.9886444 --> 00:35:29,70.9886444
Yeah Now the tomatoes don't have much flavor, the watermelon, all these different vegetables and fruits.

315
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If you wanna put the flavor back in, that comes from the nutrients and the minerals and the biology.

316
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Now you've got real medicinal plants producing real medicinal vegetables and fruit, and the flavor is telling you that.

317
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So it's heavenly.

318
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Right.

319
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Right.

320
00:35:45,22.9886444 --> 00:35:46,686.9886444
It's heavenly to eat real food.

321
00:35:46,962.9886444 --> 00:35:47,668.9886444
Oh, yeah.

322
00:35:47,689.9886444 --> 00:35:48,125.9886444
Well, and it...

323
00:35:48,125.9886444 --> 00:35:51,659.9886444
Yes, as I was saying before, you know, these vegetables, they sing.

324
00:35:52,333.9886444 --> 00:35:55,119.9886444
The fruits and- Yeah vegetables that have that quality, they sing.

325
00:35:55,126.9886444 --> 00:36:07,898.9886444
And I, in Ayurveda is this, like literally you are what you eat, like the, the digestion and nutrition story, the way that Ayurveda teaches it is, very clear from the food into- Yeah making all the different layers of the tissues of your body.

326
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Once you understand it through that lens, you're very literally are composed of, you know, what we're eating.

327
00:36:13,451.9886444 --> 00:36:20,627.9886444
So if the fruit is singing, that's what we call prana, which is, like the life energy of anything living, You know- Yeah.

328
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A person, a fruit, a, a squirrel.

329
00:36:23,196.9886444 --> 00:36:24,715.9886444
And that's the transmission.

330
00:36:24,983.9886444 --> 00:36:27,613.9886444
So food is like a middleman that brings the prana.

331
00:36:27,983.9886444 --> 00:36:28,207.9886444
Yeah.

332
00:36:28,207.9886444 --> 00:36:28,217.9886444
Yeah.

333
00:36:28,217.9886444 --> 00:36:34,145.6553111
And that, what we call life force- is from soil to plant to animal to human.

334
00:36:34,817.6553111 --> 00:36:45,972.6553111
All of those things create an athlete that can set new world records or allow a grandmother to be able to play with her grandchildren again, right? Through proper genetic expression.

335
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Rebuilding of the tissues that make us, right? the- what what we are.

336
00:36:51,466.6553111 --> 00:36:58,637.6553111
And so it's very important for people understand that and that life force and vitality, that's not health or healthcare.

337
00:36:59,371.6553111 --> 00:37:03,88.6553111
Right? that's terms used by folks that are doing something different.

338
00:37:03,686.6553111 --> 00:37:08,478.6553111
we're all about vitality and life force, and that's what creates superhumans.

339
00:37:09,2.6553111 --> 00:37:09,519.6553111
Yeah.

340
00:37:10,59.6553111 --> 00:37:18,151.6553111
Which I get from you, not only is it about performance or healthy aging, but also that there's a spirituality here.

341
00:37:18,203.6553111 --> 00:37:29,136.6553111
a, a true, grassroots we could say understanding that we literally are one with the Earth, you know, with the planet.

342
00:37:29,137.6553111 --> 00:37:29,394.6553111
Yeah.

343
00:37:29,473.6553111 --> 00:37:35,535.6553111
and It's in all textbooks, all holy books, all religions, we were sent here to be stewards.

344
00:37:35,775.6553111 --> 00:37:41,717.6553111
Stewards of what our creator created, right? No matter what you believe, that's why we're here.

345
00:37:41,942.6553111 --> 00:37:45,976.6553111
we're meant to be stewards, and that means replenishing the land.

346
00:37:45,976.6553111 --> 00:38:08,812.6553111
So as human beings, I can either live in existence as a, a parasitic organism who does nothing but take and toxifies, just as parasites do to human beings or cows or other animals, or I can be a beneficial organism that continually realizes through my research and understanding that I can replenish my part of the world.

347
00:38:09,297.6553111 --> 00:38:24,306.3219777
I can put those nutrients back down and keep that regenerative, real regenerative, and real sustainable process going for future generations, like my children, right? And also the spiritual aspect of it is this: I spent my childhood sick, as I've pointed out.

348
00:38:25,104.3219777 --> 00:38:34,560.3219777
The struggle and the fear and the things that happen when we're a kid that struggles like that who just wants to be good.

349
00:38:35,18.3219777 --> 00:38:36,917.3219777
I just wanted to be good at sports, that's all.

350
00:38:37,496.3219777 --> 00:38:37,705.3219777
Mm.

351
00:38:37,764.3219777 --> 00:38:39,979.6553111
And I see sick children today.

352
00:38:40,377.6553111 --> 00:38:42,404.6553111
I know it doesn't need to happen.

353
00:38:42,597.6553111 --> 00:38:47,93.6553111
And because, humans are programmed now, especially Americans, with fear and trauma.

354
00:38:47,668.6553111 --> 00:38:49,941.6553111
that's been, Well documented.

355
00:38:50,866.6553111 --> 00:38:53,683.6553111
So what I ask your listeners to do is this.

356
00:38:53,692.6553111 --> 00:39:00,479.6553111
Because most Americans care about their children, love their children more than anything in the world, and they care about the environment.

357
00:39:00,526.6553111 --> 00:39:01,335.6553111
They truly do.

358
00:39:01,962.6553111 --> 00:39:03,720.6553111
But they don't love themselves.

359
00:39:03,849.6553111 --> 00:39:06,194.6553111
They don't, they literally don't care about themselves.

360
00:39:06,479.6553111 --> 00:39:11,582.6553111
They decimate themselves to make enough money to take care of other people, their children, things like that.

361
00:39:11,583.6553111 --> 00:39:12,998.6553111
They beat themselves into the ground.

362
00:39:13,589.6553111 --> 00:39:15,18.6553111
So I ask people to do this.

363
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Close your eyes, and with your eyes closed, turn your head to the left or right, and with your eyes closed, look down.

364
00:39:22,525.3219777 --> 00:39:32,532.6553111
Knowing how much you love your children, visualize yourself as a five-year-old and realize that that child deserves as much love that we give our children.

365
00:39:32,821.9037648 --> 00:39:45,310.9037648
And through that experience, we start to understand that only through loving ourselves again and taking care of ourselves is how we end up helping others Right.

366
00:39:45,683.9037648 --> 00:39:47,119.9037648
I'm so with you there.

367
00:39:47,774.9037648 --> 00:39:48,591.9037648
I'm so with you.

368
00:39:49,589.9037648 --> 00:39:54,489.9037648
And I love this idea that, you know, 'cause the garden is fricking hard work out there.

369
00:39:55,101.9037648 --> 00:39:57,877.9037648
The digging, digging up that plot was so intense.

370
00:39:58,690.9037648 --> 00:40:07,208.2370982
And it is like a challenge, that I give myself to, get this garden going, you know, and, like, expand it a little tiny bit every year, right? Right.

371
00:40:07,210.2370982 --> 00:40:12,159.2370982
But for many years, 10, 20 years, I was either transient or living in a city.

372
00:40:12,397.9037648 --> 00:40:22,17.5704315
And so, you know, like in my cookbooks, I talk about going to the farmers market in the city, and being around, the vitality of Just, like, hanging out in the middle of the market with the food.

373
00:40:22,608.5704315 --> 00:40:22,945.5704315
Sure.

374
00:40:23,175.5704315 --> 00:40:34,444.2370982
What else would you suggest for folks who, maybe don't have the opportunity to grow their own food? for folks like that, they can go to Cell Saviors, C-E-L-L, cellsaviors.org,

375
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and understand that we put four pillars, four main pillars, and we're adding a few more actually, of soil nutrients, soil probiotics, soil-borne probiotics, ocean minerals, and a few other components in there through four components, what we would consider the four main pillars.

376
00:40:55,415.2370982 --> 00:41:06,826.2370982
And they can get a jumpstart and chelate or remove the toxins out of their bodies and re-mineralize themselves to start realizing how much better they can feel.

377
00:41:07,249.2370982 --> 00:41:07,281.2370982
Yeah.

378
00:41:07,281.2370982 --> 00:41:11,419.2370982
How much more energy, h- reduce inflammation, all these different things.

379
00:41:11,433.2370982 --> 00:41:19,749.2370982
And once they feel that, once they clean their bodies out a little bit more and re-mineralize, that it's going to change their perspective a great deal.

380
00:41:19,783.2370982 --> 00:41:26,456.2370982
And so for the folks out there that do fasting, for instance, with just water, remember the environment that we live in.

381
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When we fast, our cells will dump toxins.

382
00:41:31,363.2370982 --> 00:41:55,635.2370982
Many times, those were things that our cells were using to try and keep us alive, inorganic metals and other elements, to literally replace what's missing to try and keep us operating, right? So as we lose all of that, and then when we start to eat and drink water again or other things, we pull those toxins back in, and sometimes we actually increase the amount of toxins in our body.

383
00:41:56,286.2370982 --> 00:42:05,960.2370982
So if we use those components in Cell Saviors, the regeneration kit we call it, during a fast, now our cells are getting exactly what they desperately need.

384
00:42:06,571.2370982 --> 00:42:16,123.2370982
We pull and push the toxins out quicker, and we give ourselves a reset and come out way ahead of the game when we do fasts in that fashion.

385
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Mm-hmm.

386
00:42:17,581.2370982 --> 00:42:18,49.2370982
Mm-hmm.

387
00:42:18,482.2370982 --> 00:42:28,380.2370982
So you're suggesting, it's like you're changing the, physicality and also the consciousness of the individual, who will then gravitate towards anything that makes- Sure the planet healthier.

388
00:42:29,49.2370982 --> 00:42:29,908.2370982
Yeah, 100%.

389
00:42:29,911.2370982 --> 00:42:29,925.2370982
Yeah.

390
00:42:29,925.2370982 --> 00:42:49,684.2370982
And I've had farmers who've had s- children who were suffering from respiratory illness or other problems, or one, gentleman whose wife had severe joint problems, and she got on a few of those components from Cell Saviors, and she texts me four days later and said, "I can wear my wedding rings for the first time in two years.

391
00:42:49,861.2370982 --> 00:42:50,659.2370982
This is incredible."

392
00:42:51,229.2370982 --> 00:42:55,144.2370982
And then the husband called me, who I couldn't get his attention to save my life.

393
00:42:55,149.2370982 --> 00:42:56,765.2370982
He didn't even wanna talk to me, I don't think.

394
00:42:57,413.2370982 --> 00:43:01,324.2370982
But he texts me and said, "What'd you do to my wife?" And I said, "The same thing I wanna do to your soil."

395
00:43:01,717.2370982 --> 00:43:03,105.2370982
And he goes, "Okay, I'll talk to you."

396
00:43:03,618.2370982 --> 00:43:15,668.2370982
So it's sometimes through that wake-up process- Yeah that's when people see differently and understand that there are solutions outside of the parameters, the cattle chutes that we've been placed in, right? Sure.

397
00:43:15,912.2370982 --> 00:43:16,989.2370982
Yeah, that makes sense.

398
00:43:17,334.2370982 --> 00:43:27,766.2370982
and would you agree that for that person to shop at a farmers market would be their best option? The best option, but ask people what are being used to grow the food.

399
00:43:28,41.2370982 --> 00:43:28,566.2370982
Yeah.

400
00:43:28,566.2370982 --> 00:43:35,178.2370982
we talk about we are what we eat, but actually we are what our food ate.

401
00:43:35,492.2370982 --> 00:43:35,909.2370982
Yeah.

402
00:43:36,486.2370982 --> 00:43:37,133.2370982
Always.

403
00:43:37,281.2370982 --> 00:43:38,862.2370982
And so we have to go back to the soil.

404
00:43:38,865.2370982 --> 00:43:44,455.2370982
So I like to do that and just ask people, "What was used to grow These carrots?" And they'll say, I'm not sure."

405
00:43:44,491.2370982 --> 00:43:46,265.2370982
Well, they probably bought them from somebody else.

406
00:43:46,671.2370982 --> 00:43:51,77.2370982
Or they'll say, "Oh, I think it was a 10-10-10," which is a synthetic fertilizer.

407
00:43:51,77.2370982 --> 00:43:51,447.2370982
Mm-hmm.

408
00:43:51,604.2370982 --> 00:43:51,784.2370982
Yeah.

409
00:43:51,792.2370982 --> 00:43:53,475.2370982
So always ask those questions.

410
00:43:53,525.2370982 --> 00:44:03,413.2370982
What's being used? Are you using herbicides, fungicides, NPK fertilizers, or are you growing truly organic, So that's the difference.

411
00:44:03,426.2370982 --> 00:44:10,213.2370982
Because they don't differentiate allowing people into farmers markets based on- Right what they grow their food with.

412
00:44:10,340.2370982 --> 00:44:10,508.2370982
Right.

413
00:44:10,508.2370982 --> 00:44:16,161.2370982
So that's something- True that should be, organic farmers markets should be popping up everywhere.

414
00:44:16,555.2370982 --> 00:44:17,102.2370982
Yes.

415
00:44:17,144.2370982 --> 00:44:17,881.2370982
Yeah, it's true.

416
00:44:17,890.2370982 --> 00:44:31,418.9037648
It's true, which I felt very lucky to meet the farmers here, and be like, "Okay, I wanna eat food from your farm," Which is what I would do with meat and eggs and dairy and all the things as much as possible- Yeah to find out who grew it, and, more about what they're doing.

417
00:44:31,713.9037648 --> 00:44:32,6.9037648
Yeah.

418
00:44:32,58.9037648 --> 00:44:32,265.9037648
Yeah.

419
00:44:32,265.9037648 --> 00:44:32,765.9037648
So that makes sense.

420
00:44:32,766.9037648 --> 00:44:33,112.9037648
And so that's...

421
00:44:33,514.9037648 --> 00:44:37,143.9037648
So and that's the thing is, most people out there don't wanna be a world champion fighter.

422
00:44:37,242.9037648 --> 00:44:40,890.9037648
They don't wanna be a world-class triathlete or a marathoner.

423
00:44:40,916.9037648 --> 00:45:06,271.9037648
But by golly, if I could snap my fingers and everyone listening to this could be the human being they dreamt of always being as a kid, with vitality, the ability to run, jump, swim, climb, do anything that they wanted, right? what, kind of change would that mean for your life? What type of outlook would you have on your life, and how could you positively affect others around you? And that's what ultimately can be done.

424
00:45:06,271.9037648 --> 00:45:16,318.9037648
I've seen people, a good friend of mine who was a 340-pound alcoholic, turn into a world-class ultra runner who could run 100 miles in a day without a problem.

425
00:45:16,946.9037648 --> 00:45:28,627.9037648
That's what can happen to people who wake up and accept that there are changes and that they do love themselves enough to do that for themselves, right, and that we deserve to be that awesome.

426
00:45:29,55.9037648 --> 00:45:29,900.9037648
100%.

427
00:45:30,106.9037648 --> 00:45:32,76.9037648
That's- Yeah that's why we're here.

428
00:45:32,136.9037648 --> 00:45:41,461.9037648
We're here to be the greatest whatever it is we can become, and be a shining light for other people, th- the best that we can, right? And I'm no different than anybody else.

429
00:45:41,510.9037648 --> 00:45:43,571.9037648
I've been through ups and downs in this life.

430
00:45:43,996.9037648 --> 00:45:45,920.9037648
I've had a multitude of injuries.

431
00:45:45,920.9037648 --> 00:45:51,844.9037648
I've had a multitude of problems in my life, and somehow at 60, here I am.

432
00:45:52,263.9037648 --> 00:45:56,76.9037648
and I'm climbing again, right? You can rebuild yourself.

433
00:45:56,988.9037648 --> 00:45:57,432.9037648
Yeah.

434
00:45:57,487.9037648 --> 00:46:03,693.9037648
You have an infectious, positivity and enthusiasm about this, the soil projects that you're doing.

435
00:46:04,384.9037648 --> 00:46:15,318.9037648
And I especially appreciate, Pat, you talking about sort of your dream of being a good athlete as a kid, and then you go on to be, a Hall of Famer, and now you're helping everyone else do the same.

436
00:46:15,318.9037648 --> 00:46:19,980.9037648
So I just appreciate your mission and that you're sharing that with us today.

437
00:46:20,26.9037648 --> 00:46:21,685.6547648
Thank you so much- for being here.

438
00:46:22,216.6547648 --> 00:46:24,439.6547648
We're on the same team, right? Yeah.

439
00:46:24,537.6547648 --> 00:46:25,47.6547648
Yeah.

440
00:46:25,122.6547648 --> 00:46:25,431.6547648
yeah.

441
00:46:25,919.6547648 --> 00:46:27,576.6547648
So you shared the Soil Saviors.

442
00:46:27,577.6547648 --> 00:46:29,563.6547648
We'll put this in the show notes, the Cell Saviors.

443
00:46:29,569.6547648 --> 00:46:34,920.9880982
Is there anything you, else you want people to know about? Ultimately, just goes back to ourselves.

444
00:46:35,228.6547648 --> 00:46:42,5.6547648
Truly help yourself, help your own environment, and watch the magic happen, and then just go out and help others.

445
00:46:42,145.6547648 --> 00:46:42,935.6547648
That's why we're here.

446
00:46:43,360.6547648 --> 00:46:43,812.6547648
Yeah.

447
00:46:44,113.6547648 --> 00:46:44,857.6547648
Absolutely.

448
00:46:45,511.6547648 --> 00:46:50,15.6547648
Before we let you go, can I ask you three rapid fire questions? Yes.

449
00:46:50,516.6547648 --> 00:46:50,982.6547648
All right.

450
00:46:51,42.6547648 --> 00:46:55,551.5117648
from a world-class athlete I can't say they'll be rapid fire answers, but we'll, I'll be- We'll try.

451
00:46:55,735.5117648 --> 00:46:56,414.5117648
We'll try.

452
00:46:56,414.5117648 --> 00:46:56,424.5117648
Okay.

453
00:46:57,82.5117648 --> 00:47:00,573.5117648
First thing you do when you wake up, Pat? I pray.

454
00:47:00,760.5117648 --> 00:47:01,794.8450982
Yeah, of course.

455
00:47:01,819.8450982 --> 00:47:05,751.8450982
Do you stay in the bed? just kinda where you are and pray in bed? Sometimes...

456
00:47:05,988.8450982 --> 00:47:07,678.8450982
And I'll pray numerous times throughout the day.

457
00:47:07,680.8450982 --> 00:47:08,649.8450982
I'll stop and pray.

458
00:47:09,99.8450982 --> 00:47:09,548.8450982
Yeah.

459
00:47:09,553.8450982 --> 00:47:11,504.8450982
So that's something that kinda stays with me.

460
00:47:11,876.8450982 --> 00:47:23,496.8450982
Mm-hmm, How about your first food or drink of the day? My first food or drink of the day, my first drink of the day is a mix of the Cell Saviors components.

461
00:47:23,817.8450982 --> 00:47:31,858.8450982
I like to it in a Mason jar with restructured water, quantum restructured water, and slam that down, and that, that's my first drink.

462
00:47:32,202.8450982 --> 00:47:32,509.8450982
Yeah.

463
00:47:32,537.8450982 --> 00:47:33,589.8450982
I had a feeling you would say that.

464
00:47:34,246.8450982 --> 00:47:34,660.8450982
Yeah.

465
00:47:35,163.8450982 --> 00:47:49,881.4306222
And how about your wind down routine at the end of the day? Like, what do you do to kinda de-stress if needed, get to sleep? it varies, to be honest with you, but I do my best to stay away from any cellphone activity- Mm-hmm.

466
00:47:50,76.4306222 --> 00:47:52,160.4306222
And stay away from a lot of that.

467
00:47:52,238.4306222 --> 00:47:56,13.4306222
And I actually like to work out at night as well.

468
00:47:56,13.4306222 --> 00:48:01,586.4306222
I think that's a habit that I used to get when I was young, training for the UFC fights.

469
00:48:02,65.4306222 --> 00:48:02,198.4306222
Mm-hmm.

470
00:48:02,300.4306222 --> 00:48:09,795.4306222
I would be in bed sleeping, it would be midnight, and I'd suddenly wake up just horrified that my opponent was doing more work than me.

471
00:48:10,320.4306222 --> 00:48:15,634.4306222
And I'd throw on my running shoes and go for a five-mile run or a 10-mile run at midnight, in the middle of the night.

472
00:48:15,699.4306222 --> 00:48:17,249.4306222
And then, then I would be able to sleep.

473
00:48:17,249.4306222 --> 00:48:23,41.4306222
So I'm a bit of an odd bird, so My wind down, my, my wind down might be different than others.

474
00:48:23,899.4306222 --> 00:48:24,294.4306222
Yeah.

475
00:48:24,313.4306222 --> 00:48:29,418.4306222
So do you still work out late? I do periodically, yeah.

476
00:48:29,569.4306222 --> 00:48:29,790.4306222
Yeah.

477
00:48:29,790.4306222 --> 00:48:30,441.4306222
Yeah, I'll go out.

478
00:48:30,611.4306222 --> 00:48:35,769.4306222
We've got a barn that's set up as a gym, one of the barns on the property that's a, a pretty amazing gym here.

479
00:48:36,128.4306222 --> 00:48:37,368.4306222
Yeah, yeah.

480
00:48:37,536.4306222 --> 00:48:38,161.4306222
Great.

481
00:48:38,503.4306222 --> 00:48:39,81.4306222
Wow.

482
00:48:39,120.4306222 --> 00:48:40,136.4306222
thank you so much for...

483
00:48:40,143.4306222 --> 00:48:41,521.4306222
I'm excited to try.

484
00:48:41,893.4306222 --> 00:48:43,561.4306222
It's gonna be a long time till the garden.

485
00:48:43,573.4306222 --> 00:48:51,359.4306222
We've got, like, eight months of winter before I start again, but I would love to try your box on the garden next year.

486
00:48:51,538.4306222 --> 00:48:51,871.4306222
Yeah.

487
00:48:51,891.4306222 --> 00:48:52,91.4306222
Yeah.

488
00:48:52,91.4306222 --> 00:48:52,908.4306222
I'm excited about that.

489
00:48:52,916.4306222 --> 00:48:55,109.4306222
We'll make sure you get one of those, and then you can create a...

490
00:48:55,171.4306222 --> 00:49:05,910.4306222
And also, one thing that people can do, instead of trees and bushes that don't produce food- Yeah by all means, plant trees and bushes that produce berries and fruit.

491
00:49:06,281.4306222 --> 00:49:06,464.4306222
Yeah.

492
00:49:06,538.4306222 --> 00:49:07,356.4306222
and enjoy that.

493
00:49:07,359.4306222 --> 00:49:10,239.4306222
They can be amazing complements to your property.

494
00:49:10,637.4306222 --> 00:49:14,334.4306222
and just create a, a, a really aesthetically pleasing food forest.

495
00:49:14,744.4306222 --> 00:49:15,347.4306222
Yeah.

496
00:49:15,389.4306222 --> 00:49:18,309.4306222
I did that even in our suburban lot here.

497
00:49:18,322.4306222 --> 00:49:23,492.4306222
when we moved in, I just did some blueberries and some raspberries and a peach tree, an elderberry.

498
00:49:23,503.4306222 --> 00:49:27,275.4306222
you know, like anything that could be harvested rather than putting in ornamentals.

499
00:49:27,283.4306222 --> 00:49:28,522.0972889
So I hear your point.

500
00:49:28,686.7639555 --> 00:49:30,553.7639555
The Soil, the Soil Saviors is gonna bring those to life.

501
00:49:30,556.7639555 --> 00:49:32,393.7639555
You better be ready for a lot of blueberries.

502
00:49:32,783.7639555 --> 00:49:34,37.7639555
Oh, I can't wait.

503
00:49:34,82.7639555 --> 00:49:34,515.7639555
Yeah.

504
00:49:34,534.7639555 --> 00:49:35,853.7639555
I can't wait to see what's gonna happen.

505
00:49:35,853.7639555 --> 00:49:39,351.7639555
And for those of you who are listening, I will document the process next summer.

506
00:49:39,582.7639555 --> 00:49:40,956.7639555
We'll show you what's going on.

507
00:49:40,960.7639555 --> 00:49:40,975.7639555
Yeah.

508
00:49:41,355.7639555 --> 00:49:48,366.7639555
So thank you so much for being here today, sharing all your research and your personal experience, and we look forward to seeing what happens next.

509
00:49:48,801.7639555 --> 00:49:49,531.7639555
Thank you so much.