86. What One in Four Women Experience and No One Talks About


Pregnancy loss touches one in four pregnancies — yet it remains one of the least discussed experiences in women’s health. Kate O’Donnell sits down with Jenny June Arnold, certified Ayurvedic practitioner, postpartum doula, and Reiki master, to have the conversation that too many women have never been able to have.
Jenny June is also the author of Held, a new e-book on healing after pregnancy loss, and shares her own deeply personal story of two ectopic pregnancies, emergency surgeries, the loss of both fallopian tubes, and the years-long journey through grief, identity, and eventually a profound reconnection with her body through Ayurveda.
This is a rich, compassionate episode for anyone who has experienced pregnancy loss, loves someone who has, or wants to understand why this topic deserves far more care and conversation than our culture currently gives it.
What We Cover
- Why Jenny June uses the term “pregnancy loss” rather than “miscarriage” — and the full spectrum of losses it honors
- The types of pregnancy loss beyond miscarriage: ectopic pregnancies, chemical pregnancies, blighted ovum, failed embryo transfer, and more
- Jenny June’s own story: two ectopic pregnancies, emergency surgeries, and losing both fallopian tubes
- How the period after pregnancy loss mirrors postpartum — and why the body deserves the same 42-day recovery window
- Vata and Kapha through grief: what happens in the body and how to respond with warmth, food, and ritual
- Abhyanga as a practice of physical and emotional reconnection after loss
- The role of warm, nourishing food in grief recovery — and why cooking can itself become a healing ritual
- What to say (and what not to say) to someone experiencing pregnancy loss
- Why ceremony and honoring the loss matters — even years later
- How Ayurveda’s tools apply to grief of all kinds, not only pregnancy loss
Guest Bio: Jenny June Arnold
Jenny June Arnold is a certified Ayurvedic practitioner, postpartum doula, and Reiki master based in Maine. She is the founder of Pearl and Moon Ayurveda, where she works primarily with women navigating pregnancy loss, infertility, and IVF. Her practice centers on helping women befriend their bodies after loss and rebuild a relationship with themselves through Ayurvedic tools, energy work, and ceremony.
Jenny June is the author of Held: Healing After Pregnancy Loss, an e-book offering practical tools, recipes, and rituals grounded in Ayurveda and her own nine-year healing journey. She draws on personal experience — including two ectopic pregnancies that led to the loss of both fallopian tubes — to meet her clients with deep compassion and lived understanding.
Website: pearlandmoonayurveda.com
E-book: Held: Healing After Pregnancy Loss — available at pearlandmoonayurveda.com
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00:00 - Why Pregnancy Loss Matters
02:07 - Meet Jenny June Arnold
03:11 - Podcast Intro Theme
04:26 - Why This Book Now
06:18 - Miscarriage vs Pregnancy Loss
07:36 - Jenny’s Ectopic Story
12:43 - Losing Both Tubes
13:21 - Finding Ayurveda After Trauma
17:02 - Identity and Grief Healing
20:16 - Turning Pain Into Practice
21:51 - Pregnancy Loss as Postpartum
25:11 - Sacred 42 Days Tools
27:24 - Abhyanga and Reconnection
29:22 - Grief Comes in Waves
29:59 - Rituals to Honor Loss
32:19 - What Not to Say
33:32 - How to Truly Support
36:36 - Speaking Grief Out Loud
38:36 - Crying and Body Release
41:21 - Why Food Heals
45:02 - Find the Book and Practice
45:38 - Rapid Fire Routines
47:33 - Closing Reflections


