Aug. 11, 2026

The Everyday Medium: Jamie Butler on Awakening Your Psychic Abilities [video]

The Everyday Medium: Jamie Butler on Awakening Your Psychic Abilities [video]

For more than three decades, Jamie Butler — known as The Everyday Medium — has helped people trust the part of themselves they were taught to ignore. A natural-born clairvoyant, Jamie has authored multiple books, taught internationally, assisted law enforcement on unsolved cases, hosted her own YouTube show, and co-founded the Love and Light Institute. In this episode, she joins Harmony and Russell to make mediumship, channeling, and energy work feel accessible, grounded, and — true to her philosophy — "not woo woo, it's true true."

Jamie walks us through her earliest memories of seeing what others couldn't, the family history of intuitive gifts she didn't learn about until college, and the two years she spent learning how to turn her abilities on and off. She breaks down the three levels of trance channeling, explains the difference between feelings and emotions, and leaves us with simple homework for reconnecting to our own intuition — whether we're "heady" or "feeling" people.

In this episode:

  • Meet Jamie Butler, The Everyday Medium — and a live reading begins
  • What channeling and "perceiving energy" really mean
  • Color-coding auras: the "clown dots" Jamie saw as a child
  • Her mother's response to an intuitive childhood
  • College, coping, and turning the gift back on
  • The grandmother who changed everything, and the toast at Jamie's wedding
  • Shamanism, oppression, and retiring the words "healing," "release," and "let go"
  • Why differences — not sameness — are what actually connect us
  • "The wolf in the room": disarming resistance in any group
  • Energy, disease, and the ethics of energetic healing
  • Feelings vs. emotions and compassionate communication
  • The three levels of trance channeling: auctioneer, automatic writing, full incorporation
  • Can anyone learn to channel?
  • Homework for "heady" people: three days of pen-and-paper intuition tracking
  • Homework for "feeling" people: monotasking and naming your emotions
  • "Is this mine?" — how to stop absorbing energy that isn't yours
  • Jamie's tattoos and the story behind each one
  • Where to find Jamie, and her upcoming retreat
  • Harmony's upcoming workshop in Philadelphia and retreat in Canada

Connect with Jamie Butler: jamiebutlermedium.com | Instagram & Facebook: @jamie_butler_medium | YouTube: Jamie Butler Medium

Connect with Harmony: Instagram @harmonyslaterofficial | Podcast: @findingharmonypodcast

Subscribe so you never miss an episode, and leave a review if this conversation resonated with you.

The Inner Rejuvenation Codes: https://harmonyslater.kit.com/inner-rejuvenation-codes-mc

Join the Lightworker Mastermind: https://harmonyslater.com/lightworker-mastermind

FIND Harmony online: https://harmonyslater.com/
Harmony on IG: https://www.instagram.com/harmonyslaterofficial/
Finding Harmony Podcast on IG: https://www.instagram.com/findingharmonypodcast/

FREE Manifestation Activation: https://harmonyslater.kit.com/manifestation-activation

1
00:00:00,390 --> 00:00:00,930
Welcome.

2
00:00:01,350 --> 00:00:05,220
I'm Harmony Slater, your host of the Finding Harmony podcast.

3
00:00:06,060 --> 00:00:22,230
Over the past 20 years, I've taught thousands of yoga teachers and students to explore the intersection between ancient wisdom and modern everyday life, using mind body practices to heal, awaken, and manifest their dreams from the inside out.

4
00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,990
This podcast is a sanctuary for those feeling overwhelmed by life's challenges.

5
00:00:28,770 --> 00:00:36,690
Are you ready to jump? In and discover how these challenges aren't actually in the way, but are the way to finding harmony.

6
00:00:37,710 --> 00:00:40,320
Let's invite the magic back in.

7
00:00:42,460.235363636 --> 00:00:43,210.235363636
Welcome.

8
00:00:43,243.56869697 --> 00:01:02,920.235363636
Today's guest has spent more than three decades helping people remember that part of themselves that they've forgotten to trust Today, we are joined by Jamie Butler, who you may know as the Everyday Medium.

9
00:01:03,695.235363636 --> 00:01:09,595.235363636
Jamie is a natural-born clairvoyant, and she's also a natural teacher.

10
00:01:10,45.235363636 --> 00:01:24,153.567863636
Her life work has been dedicated to helping people awaken their own psychic abilities and reconnect to what she calls our infinite potential for healing, joy, and success.

11
00:01:25,45.23369697 --> 00:01:33,70.232863636
Jamie often reminds us that it's not woo woo, it's true true, and I love that.

12
00:01:33,461.902030303 --> 00:01:39,611.89869697
Over the years, Jamie has helped law enforcement on unsolved cases.

13
00:01:40,28.56619697 --> 00:01:47,520.23036364
She has also hosted her own show on YouTube, as well as co-founded the Love and Light Institute.

14
00:01:47,803.56786364 --> 00:01:49,570.23536364
She's taught internationally.

15
00:01:49,811.89786364 --> 00:01:56,395.23036364
She has authored books, and this is 30 years of a body of work.

16
00:01:56,703.56786364 --> 00:01:58,703.5645303
This has been her life's work.

17
00:01:59,220.2320303 --> 00:02:25,345.2295303
And yet what, to me, most stands out about her gifts is that she really makes these concepts and these abilities that can seem quite out there, quite foreign and special and untouchable to many of us, things like mediumship or channeling or connecting or seeing energy or, uh, understanding how intuition works.

18
00:02:25,778.56786364 --> 00:02:33,603.5595303
She makes it all feel very accessible and grounded in the here and now, and also quite humorous.

19
00:02:33,803.55869697 --> 00:02:53,453.5670303
So today, we are going to explore what it means to awaken our own intuitive powers, our own psychic abilities, or how to connect more to our subtle energy, the subtle energy of ourselves, and how we are seeing and reading and interpreting the space around us.

20
00:02:53,920.2370303 --> 00:02:58,620.24369697
energy, you know, it doesn't have to be something that is woo woo or foreign.

21
00:02:58,886.9095303 --> 00:03:03,853.58119697
It is actually the very foundation of everything you are looking at right now.

22
00:03:04,320.24619697 --> 00:03:18,715.12673275
Every single thing is made up of energy, and Being able to feel and sense and see and know the world in the most subtlest way is a true gift, but it is also our birthright.

23
00:03:18,873.46089942 --> 00:03:23,323.46006609
It's also something we all once had connection to.

24
00:03:23,840.12756609 --> 00:04:23,413.66648966
And it's my belief that this point we're at in history, in the world, with the rise of AI and, stimulation and machines and automation, that it is truly calling for us to connect with what it means to be human and to go back to this birthright, to our innate capacity to be sensitive, to feel each other, to know energy, to understand each other at a heart level, to trust what you sense, to expand what you believe is possible, and to really remember that intuition isn't something that's foreign or unattainable or hard to hear, but that it's something already speaking to you.

25
00:04:23,822.00398966 --> 00:04:37,872.00232299
And we just need to tune our ears, tune our minds in a new way to a different station, to a different frequency, so that we can start to hear and see and feel and understand.

26
00:04:37,880.33315632 --> 00:04:46,863.66482299
It's something that we uncover within ourselves when we start to slow down and pay attention in a little bit of a different way.

27
00:04:47,263.66815632 --> 00:04:57,185.97912794
And so Jamie's going to help us do that and guide us through some steps to do that today Hello, and welcome back.

28
00:04:57,315.97912794 --> 00:04:58,875.97912794
I- It's not welcome back.

29
00:04:58,995.97912794 --> 00:05:03,685.97912794
It's- Yeah, it's welcome back no, it's, no, it's welcome, hi, welcome to the Finding Harmony podcast.

30
00:05:03,685.97912794 --> 00:05:05,325.97912794
This is your host, Harmony Slater.

31
00:05:05,705.97912794 --> 00:05:07,835.97912794
Your co-host, Mr.

32
00:05:07,835.97912794 --> 00:05:09,275.97912794
Harmony Slater, Russell.

33
00:05:09,355.97812794 --> 00:05:14,15.97912794
It is a pleasure to meet our, our next guest, uh, Dr.

34
00:05:14,306.75695935 --> 00:05:14,995.97812794
Jamie Butler.

35
00:05:14,995.97912794 --> 00:05:15,655.97812794
Nice to meet you.

36
00:05:17,661.97912794 --> 00:05:19,475.97812794
I would be a doctor Yes.

37
00:05:19,475.97912794 --> 00:05:20,95.97912794
Yes.

38
00:05:20,415.97912794 --> 00:05:22,395.97812794
I- Maybe you can channel a doctor, and then...

39
00:05:22,395.97812794 --> 00:05:24,415.98012794
I'm, I'm a little self-conscious.

40
00:05:24,455.98012794 --> 00:05:31,255.97712794
I'm aware that our energies are being observed, and I'm wondering what kind of read you have so far.

41
00:05:36,155.97912794 --> 00:05:46,35.97912794
It was just to get to know you, but I don't look deeper than All right Um, I was just observing how playful the both of you are.

42
00:05:46,465.97912794 --> 00:05:48,185.97912794
There's lots of...

43
00:05:48,625.97912794 --> 00:05:49,955.97812794
I kind of color-code it.

44
00:05:49,955.97912794 --> 00:05:56,55.97912794
That was a way for me to feel more sane with getting so much information.

45
00:05:56,55.97912794 --> 00:05:58,465.97812794
You know, you just kinda organize it in a way that fits.

46
00:05:58,835.97812794 --> 00:06:07,785.97912794
So you have a lot of yellow and then some mustard colors, which I resonate strongly with 'cause it's-- I call it the Peter Pan energy.

47
00:06:08,345.97812794 --> 00:06:13,245.97812794
Like, I don't care how old you are, you are playful, and you are in it to have a good time.

48
00:06:13,475.97912794 --> 00:06:15,445.97912794
And it doesn't matter what kind of situation.

49
00:06:15,495.97912794 --> 00:06:24,885.97712794
It could be very, very serious, and I know Russell will bring his A game on a belly laugh that's probably really inappropriate but so welcomed.

50
00:06:25,175.98012794 --> 00:06:32,605.97712794
Like, everybody's like, "Oh my God, thank you," like, for poking at it or just dismantling a little bit so we can feel comfortable.

51
00:06:33,399.31246127 --> 00:06:35,79.31246127
Does she watch the show? No.

52
00:06:35,109.31246127 --> 00:06:37,39.31246127
Has she seen the show before? She's got gifts, man.

53
00:06:37,49.31246127 --> 00:06:38,849.31246127
My goodness gracious.

54
00:06:39,289.31246127 --> 00:06:51,419.31146127
It's so cool you said that too, because I was watching your YouTube video where you were talking about how to see auras and read auras, and explaining all about the color coding.

55
00:06:51,419.31246127 --> 00:06:59,839.31246127
And so I was kinda like, you know, there with you going through it, and I was like, "I think Jamie has, like, a yellow energy."

56
00:07:00,489.31246127 --> 00:07:06,443.31246127
And so now I feel very affirmed in my assessment You're very good at this.

57
00:07:06,483.31246127 --> 00:07:12,555.31246127
Yes, it What the fuck are you two talking about? Can you, can we back up? Wait, what? You said mustard.

58
00:07:12,575.31246127 --> 00:07:14,395.31246127
I really, I like mustard a lot.

59
00:07:14,415.31246127 --> 00:07:25,729.31246127
What do you, uh, can you tell us about the c- this color-coding thing? What are you? What do you mean what am I? Like You're a, you're a medium, you're a channeler of energy.

60
00:07:25,899.31246127 --> 00:07:37,369.31146127
Can we start with that? Uh, we've had one or two people like you on the show before, but maybe you could tell us what you think that means, and- But Jamie's the OG of channeling energy Did we get the big one? Yes.

61
00:07:40,879.31246127 --> 00:07:43,969.31246127
We caught the big fish? Channeling, trance channeling- Yes and also perceiving energy.

62
00:07:43,979.31146127 --> 00:07:45,19.31246127
That's so great for the show.

63
00:07:45,19.31246127 --> 00:07:50,109.31246127
Is that what you would describe it? Absolutely, perceiving the energy.

64
00:07:50,639.31246127 --> 00:07:55,629.31246127
I think in the old days when we were coming out in the '90s, it was like you had to have your title.

65
00:07:55,879.31146127 --> 00:08:02,399.31246127
I was clairvoyant, clairaudient, like you would want to name it to kind of educate the person that was coming to you.

66
00:08:02,419.31146127 --> 00:08:05,529.31146127
You know, we were coming out of the shadows of palmistry.

67
00:08:06,139.31246127 --> 00:08:08,725.97812794
You know, Leo, get a reading.

68
00:08:08,755.97912794 --> 00:08:10,345.97912794
Come, you know, see me now."

69
00:08:10,355.97812794 --> 00:08:11,35.97912794
Like, all that.

70
00:08:11,45.97812794 --> 00:08:11,605.97912794
Like, it's...

71
00:08:12,188.82626913 --> 00:08:17,508.82626913
yes, but I would say more today it's about being sensitive.

72
00:08:17,718.82526913 --> 00:08:23,908.82326913
You know, we can call it that blanket statement of intuitive, and it sounds right, it feels right.

73
00:08:24,228.82526913 --> 00:08:36,108.82726913
Like, teaching classes, I'm noticing the people showing up that are interested in this have this fluidity with their abilities, where, one of my students says, "I'm, um..."

74
00:08:37,278.82826913 --> 00:08:42,358.82926913
Like, instead of saying clairvoyant, clair-sensitive, like it's clair-everything.

75
00:08:42,548.82826913 --> 00:08:44,408.82726913
You know, I'm just a little, I'm a little bit of everything.

76
00:08:44,728.82826913 --> 00:08:47,218.82926913
And you use what's easiest at the time.

77
00:08:47,588.82926913 --> 00:09:01,128.82426913
So I'm more connected to seeing subtle light energy and hearing it, and I've built the skills of claircognizance, knowing, and clairsentient, feeling, or empathic, as some people might wanna call it.

78
00:09:02,428.82526913 --> 00:09:11,778.82826913
And so it just kind of all comes together, and it's a way that I navigate the world around me, which can be extremely overwhelming for a lot of us who are sensitive.

79
00:09:12,218.82626913 --> 00:09:18,528.82726913
And we find ways to organize how we collect information, and for me, that was color-coding.

80
00:09:18,978.82826913 --> 00:09:24,58.82726913
So I would observe people's light, and they look like colors.

81
00:09:24,58.83026913 --> 00:09:30,618.82526913
Like, when I was a kid, I would draw people, and I would make them with purple rainbows, and I would call them clown dots.

82
00:09:30,958.82426913 --> 00:09:35,968.82726913
The rainbow dots that are on people, they're called chakras, but I didn't know that.

83
00:09:35,968.82726913 --> 00:09:39,178.83026913
They were just rainbow, like, clown dots, buttons.

84
00:09:39,858.82626913 --> 00:09:44,268.82226913
And, so I could look at those and say, "Oh, that one's bigger or smaller.

85
00:09:44,278.82626913 --> 00:09:47,88.82526913
This one has more of this color than that one."

86
00:09:47,438.82226913 --> 00:09:52,168.82126913
And I started to learn personality traits and how that related to the frequencies they were carrying.

87
00:09:53,568.81926913 --> 00:09:55,568.82726913
So some of us can see frequencies.

88
00:09:55,578.82926913 --> 00:09:56,718.82426913
Some of us feel it.

89
00:09:57,228.82326913 --> 00:09:58,658.82426913
Uh, some of us just know it.

90
00:09:58,678.82026913 --> 00:10:03,958.81926913
Some of us can hear it, and there's several that can actually smell or taste it psychically.

91
00:10:04,528.82626913 --> 00:10:10,558.82326913
And, I like to teach that as well as teach trance channeling, as you mentioned before.

92
00:10:10,978.82326913 --> 00:10:16,298.82726913
And this has been part of my world for over 35 years.

93
00:10:17,8.82226913 --> 00:10:19,38.82826913
Are we allowed to say that out won't tell anyone.

94
00:10:19,698.82826913 --> 00:10:21,58.82826913
So you're 35 years old.

95
00:10:21,58.82826913 --> 00:10:42,150.82826913
So can you tell us, when you were like, uh, two or three, do you, do you f- do you have like a clear memory of when you noticed that maybe other people didn't have this? And do you have a clear memory of like, "Wow, I'm getting a, a read my first, for the first time"? I was probably five or six, 'cause I just thought everybody else saw everything that I did.

96
00:10:43,160.82826913 --> 00:10:52,900.82826913
And I would just talk to the air, as my mom would say I would just communicate to trees, animals, just sit and talk, you know, and just really enjoy myself.

97
00:10:53,320.82726913 --> 00:10:55,720.82726913
My mom would say, "I never worried about you.

98
00:10:55,720.82826913 --> 00:10:59,50.82826913
I just always knew there was something good about you.

99
00:10:59,50.82826913 --> 00:11:00,390.82726913
There was something safe about you.

100
00:11:00,390.82726913 --> 00:11:02,120.82826913
I didn't have to worry about you."

101
00:11:02,680.82826913 --> 00:11:10,170.82726913
And then when I got old enough to understand that they weren't engaging with the things I was, it was really confusing and very sad.

102
00:11:10,670.82526913 --> 00:11:15,170.82726913
And my mom approached me one day when we were in Helen, Georgia.

103
00:11:15,220.82526913 --> 00:11:23,220.82626913
There's a beautiful state park up there, and she was like, "You know, your imaginary friends and everything, they told me they wanna stay here."

104
00:11:24,150.82626913 --> 00:11:31,970.82626913
And it's like that was the first time she really engaged, like they had spoken to her, and I was like, like, "She believes me, and she knows."

105
00:11:32,570.82826913 --> 00:11:35,50.82726913
And just even talking about it, I have goosebumps everywhere.

106
00:11:36,150.82626913 --> 00:11:38,740.82526913
And so I was like, "Okay, they wanna stay."

107
00:11:38,740.82626913 --> 00:11:40,520.82726913
And she's like, "Yeah, you need to tell them goodbye.

108
00:11:40,590.82426913 --> 00:11:42,10.83026913
Like, they need to-- They wanna be here.

109
00:11:42,10.83026913 --> 00:11:42,940.82326913
You have to say goodbye."

110
00:11:43,560.82326913 --> 00:11:45,40.83026913
I was like, "Okay."

111
00:11:45,40.83026913 --> 00:12:04,100.82826913
And like how do you navigate as a little kid who is having a real experience with spirit and entity and building deep relationships, they were very caring, very loving, I learned a lot from them growing up, versus the mom that you deeply love and respect, like, where do you go? So I sided with my mom.

112
00:12:04,100.82826913 --> 00:12:05,120.82926913
I said goodbye to them.

113
00:12:05,230.82426913 --> 00:12:06,400.82226913
I remember being in the car.

114
00:12:06,400.83026913 --> 00:12:13,440.82526913
It takes about eight hours to get back to Lakeland, Florida, and I sobbed, and I cried the whole eight hours.

115
00:12:13,730.82426913 --> 00:12:18,620.82326913
And every now and then my mom would turn around and just go, "Remember, they're staying in Helen, Georgia."

116
00:12:18,870.82326913 --> 00:12:23,520.82626913
Like, "Don't bring them back," you know? And you could tell, like, she had had it.

117
00:12:24,110.82926913 --> 00:12:34,460.82926913
And I remember just focusing on my shoes pressed up against the back of the driver's seat and just trying to manage what's it like, like I'm alone now.

118
00:12:34,830.82226913 --> 00:12:37,690.82326913
And they never came back that way again.

119
00:12:37,700.82526913 --> 00:12:39,940.82326913
Like, they respected the choice I made.

120
00:12:40,570.82826913 --> 00:12:41,580.82626913
I turned it off.

121
00:12:41,580.82626913 --> 00:12:42,420.82326913
I cut it off.

122
00:12:43,330.83026913 --> 00:12:44,820.82526913
And it was so lonely.

123
00:12:45,370.82326913 --> 00:12:54,500.82926913
Like sleeping at night, not hearing the songs or the voices in my head, like it was just all comfort, and it was gone.

124
00:12:55,350.81926913 --> 00:12:56,790.81826913
It was crazy times.

125
00:12:57,204.15860246 --> 00:13:06,346.15860246
weren't there Lakeland spirits that you could speak to? I wasn't that much engaged with, like, the house spirits or land spirits.

126
00:13:06,366.15860246 --> 00:13:14,726.15860246
This was just, like, my spirit team that was with me as a kid, and then when I turned it off, kind of like just all the lights went away.

127
00:13:14,726.15860246 --> 00:13:18,716.15860246
I, I just didn't see as much as I was before.

128
00:13:18,716.15860246 --> 00:13:21,16.15760246
I didn't know what was going to happen.

129
00:13:21,46.15860246 --> 00:13:26,356.15760246
It would just come, like, in a dream state or sporadically throughout the years.

130
00:13:26,396.15760246 --> 00:13:42,852.31452524
It wasn't a daily thing that it was, until I moved away and I went to college, what happened? What happened He was wild that I got thrown back into sensing, seeing, feeling, and the way I managed it was really irresponsible.

131
00:13:42,902.31452524 --> 00:13:44,242.31352524
I went to drugs.

132
00:13:45,242.31452524 --> 00:13:46,782.31352524
I don't recommend it, people.

133
00:13:46,792.31352524 --> 00:13:47,912.31352524
Like, own your gifts.

134
00:13:47,952.31352524 --> 00:13:50,372.31352524
Please take the time to learn what's happening to you.

135
00:13:50,812.31452524 --> 00:13:59,932.31352524
But I was taking drugs to make it go away, and all my friends in college were taking drugs to make it all come to life, you know? And I was just like, "Dumb it down, dumb it down.

136
00:13:59,942.31352524 --> 00:14:07,322.31552524
Let's take drugs and go to school," so I could learn my lessons without spirit standing next to me going, "I know you see me."

137
00:14:07,872.31152524 --> 00:14:09,622.31452524
Like, "I, I know you can communicate to me.

138
00:14:09,622.31452524 --> 00:14:13,982.31352524
Can you tell this person that?" And I'm just like, "Mm, no."

139
00:14:14,142.31252524 --> 00:14:21,162.31152524
Like, "Oh, my God, what's happening?" So I called my dad, and I was like, "I need, I need help.

140
00:14:21,632.31352524 --> 00:14:23,262.31152524
Like, I'm going insane.

141
00:14:23,492.31452524 --> 00:14:24,392.31452524
I'm hearing voices.

142
00:14:24,392.31452524 --> 00:14:28,532.31252524
I'm seeing things people aren't seeing, and I know things that people don't know."

143
00:14:29,222.31452524 --> 00:14:32,572.31352524
And he was like, "Well, you gotta call your grandmother," my nana.

144
00:14:33,142.31252524 --> 00:14:40,762.31152524
Um, I was like, "Why? Why?" She's like Miss Proper, drink with her pinky out, New Englander.

145
00:14:41,522.31352524 --> 00:14:46,552.30952524
Why would I tell her this? He was like, "Well, it kind of runs in the family."

146
00:14:47,622.31152524 --> 00:14:48,632.31552524
I was like, "Oh, my God."

147
00:14:48,632.31552524 --> 00:14:59,208.31452524
So I called her, and she apologized, you know, for- For, I don't know, the Shutting it down, she was like, "We just didn't know what to do.

148
00:14:59,228.31452524 --> 00:15:02,88.31452524
Like, it was, you know, taboo.

149
00:15:02,98.31352524 --> 00:15:03,448.31452524
We didn't want you..."

150
00:15:03,618.31452524 --> 00:15:09,968.31452524
My aunt has it, my my dad's sister, and she had a really hard time in college, and so she turned it off.

151
00:15:09,968.31452524 --> 00:15:18,768.31452524
And my grandmother was like, "Why don't you be the first one to learn how to be with it? Why, why don't you help people?" I was like, "Help people? What the...

152
00:15:19,58.31352524 --> 00:15:21,248.31352524
How do you help people? I can't even wake up.

153
00:15:21,248.31352524 --> 00:15:22,738.31352524
I can't fall asleep by myself."

154
00:15:22,738.31352524 --> 00:15:35,898.31252524
Like, I'm huddled in the corner of my bedroom, like, with a bat, and sometimes with, like, a vacuum cleaner extension because I couldn't differentiate if it was a real person breaking into my house or was it a spirit.

155
00:15:35,918.31152524 --> 00:15:38,318.31252524
Like, sometimes they look so solid.

156
00:15:38,778.31252524 --> 00:15:40,358.31252524
Like, it's mind-boggling.

157
00:15:41,108.31452524 --> 00:15:44,138.31352524
So I was like, "I don't know if I really want this."

158
00:15:44,488.31552524 --> 00:15:45,848.31352524
She was like, "Find somebody."

159
00:15:46,328.31152524 --> 00:15:56,888.31352524
So I found somebody, and I studied kind of privately, and then my family, the first time they acknowledged that, you know, hey, their daughter's kinda doing this.

160
00:15:57,578.31552524 --> 00:16:01,18.31252524
My dad was more open to it, but my mom was like, "Hmm."

161
00:16:01,818.31352524 --> 00:16:05,218.31152524
That was at, my wedding, and my dad did this elaborate toast.

162
00:16:05,248.31052524 --> 00:16:07,978.31252524
He's like, Jamie is like the wind.

163
00:16:08,88.31452524 --> 00:16:13,608.30952524
I don't need to see what she's doing or what she's able to do.

164
00:16:13,638.30952524 --> 00:16:14,438.30852524
I can feel it.

165
00:16:15,318.30952524 --> 00:16:20,98.30752524
And just like you don't see the wind, but you can feel it brush against your face.

166
00:16:20,98.30852524 --> 00:16:22,308.31052524
You can feel it, you know, come against you."

167
00:16:22,308.31052524 --> 00:16:24,898.30852524
And he says, "I know what she's doing is real."

168
00:16:24,898.31152524 --> 00:16:33,278.31352524
And he acknowledged it in front of extended family and everyone, and it was like this big f- you know, support that I didn't get as a kid.

169
00:16:33,298.31352524 --> 00:16:39,868.31152524
So it just kind of corrected itself, you know? And it was like, okay, I'm I was already in the field.

170
00:16:39,868.31252524 --> 00:16:40,868.3145252
I couldn't avoid it.

171
00:16:41,644.3135252 --> 00:16:47,14.3135252
Were you ever, I tried to that it was, like, schizophrenia and that, like, I mean- Mm.

172
00:16:47,126.3135252 --> 00:16:52,574.3135252
could? Yes And okay, and then who did you find to help you- That, that was gonna be my question.

173
00:16:52,594.3135252 --> 00:16:53,214.3135252
Yeah.

174
00:16:53,214.3135252 --> 00:16:54,204.3135252
Yeah.

175
00:16:54,204.3135252 --> 00:16:55,234.3125252
I'm reading your mind now.

176
00:16:55,234.3135252 --> 00:16:57,114.3135252
Mm.

177
00:16:57,190.3135252 --> 00:16:59,500.3135252
to call her this old Italian bird.

178
00:17:01,120.3135252 --> 00:17:06,290.3135252
And she was, you know, I'm in my early 20s, she's in probably her 60s.

179
00:17:06,950.3135252 --> 00:17:08,760.3135252
And straight up Italian woman.

180
00:17:09,220.3125252 --> 00:17:12,160.3135252
She had these incredible gifts, Marguerite Romes.

181
00:17:12,580.3125252 --> 00:17:15,980.3135252
And I was going to UF at the time in Gainesville, Florida.

182
00:17:16,470.3135252 --> 00:17:23,500.3115252
And I'd heard about her, and there was this class called, like, it was a six-week class, like build your psychic abilities.

183
00:17:23,840.3125252 --> 00:17:24,840.3125252
It was, explore it.

184
00:17:24,960.3135252 --> 00:17:31,720.3105252
And I was like, "Pff, I don't even know the word psychic," credit or outside of class? It was, like, outside of class.

185
00:17:31,720.3105252 --> 00:17:34,960.3135252
It was like this, this extra thing.

186
00:17:34,970.3115252 --> 00:17:40,510.3105252
But she had befriended, like, all the professors and stuff, you know? And so you just, you would take it off campus.

187
00:17:41,170.3125252 --> 00:17:47,350.3105252
And so I went there, and she just kinda made eye contact with me and was like, "You, "You, will be joining me at my home."

188
00:17:47,910.3105252 --> 00:17:49,50.3095252
And I was like, "No, thanks."

189
00:17:49,280.3135252 --> 00:17:51,20.3115252
Like, "I don't know who you are.

190
00:17:51,420.3125252 --> 00:17:52,130.3115252
It's okay."

191
00:17:52,450.3115252 --> 00:17:55,970.3115252
She was like, "Nope, every Tuesday night you're gonna come to my house.

192
00:17:55,970.3115252 --> 00:18:00,200.3145252
I teach a small class, and that is a personal invite, so I will see you."

193
00:18:00,700.3115252 --> 00:18:02,0.3095252
She goes, "I don't invite everyone."

194
00:18:02,0.3145252 --> 00:18:04,50.3105252
I was like, "Okay."

195
00:18:04,490.3125252 --> 00:18:23,800.3065252
So I went, and it took about two years of working with her before I could turn the lights off, to where I could walk into a grocery store and not see lights and colors and shimmeries and spirits and all kinds of things glowing off of people and the grocery carts and the cereal boxes.

196
00:18:23,820.3145252 --> 00:18:25,380.3065252
Everything has energy on it.

197
00:18:25,510.3085252 --> 00:18:26,650.3105252
Everything is made of energy.

198
00:18:27,340.3105252 --> 00:18:28,190.3065252
And it was just...

199
00:18:29,190.3095252 --> 00:18:31,990.3085252
You, you learn to ignore it, but it was still there.

200
00:18:32,20.3105252 --> 00:18:36,400.3075252
And I, I just never felt like I could kind of be me.

201
00:18:36,430.3075252 --> 00:18:37,760.3135252
I was always managing it.

202
00:18:38,30.3135252 --> 00:18:43,450.3135252
And so she helped me turn that off and be who I am, rather than the manager.

203
00:18:43,646.3125252 --> 00:18:44,6.3125252
Yeah.

204
00:18:44,530.3135252 --> 00:18:44,730.3135252
Yeah.

205
00:18:44,750.3065252 --> 00:18:46,330.3075252
She was a gift.

206
00:18:46,606.3125252 --> 00:18:47,506.3125252
that's super interesting.

207
00:18:47,706.3125252 --> 00:18:58,576.3125252
Har- Harmony and I had an ex- an experience with an ayahuasca, and we both have been kind of really this past season, like looking, like studying about shamanic practices.

208
00:18:59,266.3125252 --> 00:19:07,626.3115252
Um, mmm, uh, m- the work that I've been looking at is, is Peruvian bruja and brujos and curanderos.

209
00:19:07,666.3125252 --> 00:19:08,206.3115252
You've been...

210
00:19:08,246.3125252 --> 00:19:11,776.3125252
Are you also in that part of the- the geography of the world? Yes.

211
00:19:11,786.3115252 --> 00:19:12,836.3115252
You're always in the same place.

212
00:19:12,846.3125252 --> 00:19:29,909.6428586
So, One thing that came up that I, I read, I think just two days ago, was this, this notion of, uh, of an oppressed people using, shamanism as a tool of, of defiance, as what...

213
00:19:30,249.6428586 --> 00:19:43,756.3115252
If you're being oppressed, how can you affect the dis-ease that's working with you? And working with a shaman is, maybe a, way to find a conduit for healing.

214
00:19:44,496.3115252 --> 00:19:54,956.3095252
I'm not sure if any of that resonates with you, but it just struck me that you're learning this, this lineage of, shamanism or, or witchcraft, and it's- it's, it's fascinating.

215
00:19:58,120.3135252 --> 00:20:01,40.3135252
I would love to understand more of what you mean by oppressed.

216
00:20:01,682.3135252 --> 00:20:02,22.3135252
Oh.

217
00:20:02,190.3135252 --> 00:20:08,475.6468586
where's it come from? Is it any avenue that in Peru they're, they've been colonized by the Spanish.

218
00:20:09,135.6468586 --> 00:20:09,415.6468586
Yeah.

219
00:20:09,415.6468586 --> 00:20:09,645.6458586
Yeah.

220
00:20:09,805.6468586 --> 00:20:33,887.6468586
And so for a lot of us who are working with, say, patriarchal oppression or, race oppression or, gender oppression, having a, shamanic guide can be really useful for, healing and redirecting, positive energy, towards, uh, um, y- living I would absolutely agree.

221
00:20:34,7.6468586 --> 00:20:44,17.6468586
But you had also mentioned like a disease, so that could, what? Are you talking about present like as illness, like a physical, mental, or emotional imbalance? Yes.

222
00:20:44,17.6468586 --> 00:20:45,329.6468586
Yes dis-ease.

223
00:20:45,519.6468586 --> 00:20:45,839.6468586
Yeah.

224
00:20:46,761.6468586 --> 00:20:49,471.6468586
Across the board, I get right behind you and I agree with it.

225
00:20:50,141.6468586 --> 00:21:08,731.6458586
Like, those who are sensitive and can observe that imbalance of energy, whether it's a larger structure like colonization or belief systems, even government structures or even on a micro level where it's the individual body and their belief systems with their physical body, mental, emotional, and physical health.

226
00:21:09,161.6468586 --> 00:21:28,491.6458586
Working with someone like a shaman or witchcraft, however you wanna put it, medium, a channeler, healer, reiki master, pranic healer, so many terms for, how somebody can help you build a better relationship with the energy that you have and help you gain a different perspective of it.

227
00:21:29,24.9781919 --> 00:21:35,654.9801919
I was just talking about this today, how there's a set of words that are coming up that I'm just d- I'm done with it.

228
00:21:35,904.9791919 --> 00:21:36,464.9791919
Done.

229
00:21:37,144.9801919 --> 00:21:41,864.9801919
I don't wanna say the word release and let go any- I'm done.

230
00:21:42,264.9791919 --> 00:21:45,634.9791919
Please stop releasing and stop letting go.

231
00:21:45,934.9781919 --> 00:21:47,804.9801919
Let's look at what we wanna hold onto.

232
00:21:47,844.9771919 --> 00:21:49,324.9751919
Let's look at where we wanna go.

233
00:21:49,794.9781919 --> 00:22:04,694.9751919
Let's stop looking and treasure hunting for the things that don't fit anymore, and observing them, and labeling them, and naming them, and, and making them stronger as we do this, and then try to shake them off as they get sticky 'cause we're still thinking about them and trying to work with them and mold them.

234
00:22:05,14.9791919 --> 00:22:05,944.9771919
No, that's done.

235
00:22:07,74.9771919 --> 00:22:08,344.9771919
We just stop acknowledging it.

236
00:22:08,404.9791919 --> 00:22:08,894.9791919
That's all.

237
00:22:09,244.9751919 --> 00:22:17,644.9801919
And then we gear ourselves towards those frequencies that are strengthening us, that is in alignment, and that resonates with us, and then we don't have to do that anymore.

238
00:22:17,994.9751919 --> 00:22:23,454.9771919
And we also don't have to do the thing called, I still struggle with this, let me know what you think.

239
00:22:24,334.9791919 --> 00:22:24,944.9791919
Healing.

240
00:22:25,854.9761919 --> 00:22:27,212.9801919
I'm, I'm done with the word healing.

241
00:22:27,512.9801919 --> 00:22:33,304.9881919
Yeah Yeah? Right, 'cause right when we say that, we're acknowledging something's not working.

242
00:22:33,304.9881919 --> 00:22:35,114.9841919
We need to heal from that.

243
00:22:35,544.9831919 --> 00:22:36,504.9831919
We have to heal from it.

244
00:22:36,574.9821919 --> 00:22:44,654.9831919
Now, the act of getting stronger in, like, in health or belief systems or whatever it is, I'm all behind that.

245
00:22:44,704.9871919 --> 00:22:46,714.9871919
I enjoy that aspect of healing.

246
00:22:47,284.9811919 --> 00:22:52,554.9861919
But the act of saying I have to heal it, I think we're growing past that point.

247
00:22:52,564.9881919 --> 00:22:54,414.9771919
I think that's more of an old paradigm.

248
00:22:54,414.9781919 --> 00:23:05,474.9781919
I think it's, it's 3D-ness, if we wanna put it that way, and we're, we've shifted a little bit further from it where some of these words aren't, aren't working.

249
00:23:06,124.9851919 --> 00:23:24,654.9811919
And so someone who is sensitive, like you're saying, Russell, would be great in helping you acknowledge that and shift your perspective away from it so you get more results from the work you're putting out rather than work, work, work, work, retrospect for three months and going, "Eh, I feel a little bit better, but I need to do more."

250
00:23:24,904.9811919 --> 00:23:26,884.9811919
Right? You're like, no.

251
00:23:27,144.9811919 --> 00:23:48,676.9861919
Like, we should have results yeah, I love that perspective 'cause it's also coming from a place, I think, of acknowledging the wholeness, and that all of the things that, you know, you might think were broken or, or needing healing are actually the gateways into your awakening, into your, like fullness.

252
00:23:49,486.9861919 --> 00:23:57,856.9861919
And so it's like including those parts rather than trying to fix them or reject them or make them something different, and I love that perspective.

253
00:23:57,856.9861919 --> 00:24:04,896.9841919
I think it is exactly kind of where the work is going and where we're going as, you know, a collective eventually.

254
00:24:06,360.9871919 --> 00:24:07,540.9871919
Yes, I agree.

255
00:24:07,964.89669 --> 00:24:14,860.9871919
I've been listening to spirits talk about, having this mass consciousness come together, having a stronger collective.

256
00:24:15,270.9861919 --> 00:24:20,230.9861919
Communities are coming together, and we're used to saying like-minded.

257
00:24:20,360.9871919 --> 00:24:23,510.9861919
Like-minded people attract, like attracts like.

258
00:24:23,910.9861919 --> 00:24:30,760.9861919
So we're looking for similar effects, right? Whether that's looks, belief systems, things of that nature.

259
00:24:31,90.9871919 --> 00:24:36,280.9861919
And then there was a conversation I had with him in a meditation, and it just made my, my brain fall apart.

260
00:24:36,450.9871919 --> 00:24:46,330.9871919
I was like, "Oh my God, why don't I see it this way?" And I, I'm doing my best now, which is the like that attracts like is in differences.

261
00:24:47,60.9861919 --> 00:24:52,930.9881919
Like, your differences are actually going to be the thing that are the like attracts like.

262
00:24:53,560.9861919 --> 00:24:55,780.9841919
So it's not like-minded people per se.

263
00:24:55,790.9851919 --> 00:25:11,944.9871919
We can be very unique, have our sovereignty, our autonomy, and love what the other one is doing, not necessarily needing to approve, but being able to be in the same room and the same space as something very different is happening, and it's differences that pull us together Hmm.

264
00:25:12,194.9871919 --> 00:25:12,964.9871919
That's powerful.

265
00:25:13,4.9871919 --> 00:25:22,444.9871919
I got this image of magnets, you know? Like, like, like and like is like p- trying to put two positives together, and they don't actually, like, quite go.

266
00:25:22,714.9871919 --> 00:25:27,754.9861919
But like positive and negative, you can actually build something with it because they connect.

267
00:25:28,866.9871919 --> 00:25:30,436.9871919
Yes, that's it.

268
00:25:30,466.9871919 --> 00:25:30,896.9871919
You just...

269
00:25:31,466.9871919 --> 00:25:32,36.9871919
Thank you.

270
00:25:32,246.9871919 --> 00:25:34,876.9871919
That just really glued very heavy into my head.

271
00:25:34,906.9871919 --> 00:25:43,111.3681919
I love it Well, it, it, I'm f- it's interesting 'cause There's a paradigm that I like to think about with, with this, is that I, I, I had an ex-wife and you had an ex-husband.

272
00:25:43,271.3681919 --> 00:26:01,604.7005252
And I was, constantly flooded with negative thoughts about my situation all the time, and I was very worried about switching wives 'cause I th- I thought- in my anxious heart that I would probably just continue with the r- horrible thoughts.

273
00:26:02,404.7005252 --> 00:26:06,384.6985252
And then I got into a new relationship, and actually the thoughts went away.

274
00:26:06,934.7005252 --> 00:26:11,114.7015252
and we, we are, we have a lot in common, but we are very different.

275
00:26:11,394.7025252 --> 00:26:15,474.7005252
And yet at the same time, it is this kind of paradigm of, of...

276
00:26:16,514.7015252 --> 00:26:20,204.7035252
It's a negative and a positive, but it is also like and like.

277
00:26:20,234.7025252 --> 00:26:26,964.7005252
And I'm, I'm, I'm not articulating this very well 'cause I'm, I'm just kind of coming up to this idea at the m- right now.

278
00:26:26,964.7025252 --> 00:26:31,18.0338586
But- I resonate with it because I see the same pattern in, in the two of us.

279
00:26:31,478.0328586 --> 00:26:31,678.0328586
Hmm.

280
00:26:32,258.0358586 --> 00:26:34,638.0358586
Yeah, we're starting to s- see it more.

281
00:26:34,648.0358586 --> 00:26:59,998.0358586
Like, just as I was learning it too, I'm observing it in personal relationships, observing how I show up in a classroom, you know, how, I was taught from a teacher that in every classroom or every gathering, there's always a wolf in the room, and the wolf is somebody who needs extra attention, or the wolf is the one who wants to destructure everything that you're throwing out.

282
00:26:59,998.0358586 --> 00:27:03,178.0348586
They wanna disprove, for whatever reason it is.

283
00:27:03,548.0368586 --> 00:27:06,188.0368586
And the first thing to do is to befriend the wolf.

284
00:27:07,428.0378586 --> 00:27:09,998.0368586
Identify the wolf and just go, "You know, you're here.

285
00:27:10,228.0368586 --> 00:27:10,898.0368586
I love you.

286
00:27:11,78.0348586 --> 00:27:12,538.0368586
You vibrate differently.

287
00:27:12,638.0368586 --> 00:27:14,328.0338586
Thank you for standing in the room with us.

288
00:27:14,518.0338586 --> 00:27:15,778.0368586
That takes a lot of courage.

289
00:27:16,68.0368586 --> 00:27:17,148.0378586
You know, thank you for this."

290
00:27:17,458.0368586 --> 00:27:29,828.0368586
And so now when I see the wolf in the room, it's not this, "I better make sure I sound intelligent and smart and get my ideas across," you know, or, you know, or, or feel like I need to defend anything.

291
00:27:30,58.0348586 --> 00:27:31,28.0338586
None of that is there.

292
00:27:31,418.0358586 --> 00:27:34,818.0328586
It's, "You're here, and you're very different, and I love it.

293
00:27:35,458.0328586 --> 00:27:35,968.0378586
Thank you."

294
00:27:36,668.0318586 --> 00:27:47,690.0358586
And it, it's this instant, wait, what? There's like a moment of confusion, and then it's safety that kind of, of rolls out into the room, which is wonderful I love that.

295
00:27:48,290.0358586 --> 00:27:58,350.0348586
That, like, just idea and the acknowledgement and the, the welcoming because it is disarming to, like, a- an adversarial energy, and I think that's...

296
00:27:58,800.0358586 --> 00:28:02,720.0358586
I mean, it, it can just be expanded even beyond, you know, the classroom.

297
00:28:02,720.0358586 --> 00:28:07,990.0358586
It's, like, our whole world in a way, right? Hmm.

298
00:28:07,990.0358586 --> 00:28:08,300.0348586
Warm.

299
00:28:08,386.0358586 --> 00:28:09,136.0358586
Very much so.

300
00:28:09,690.0358586 --> 00:28:13,950.0348586
I, I wanted to kinda go back into this kind of, living space that you operate in.

301
00:28:14,400.0348586 --> 00:28:16,210.0338586
Uh, I'm very intrigued by it.

302
00:28:16,230.0368586 --> 00:28:18,120.0358586
We just had the, the opportunity...

303
00:28:18,650.0348586 --> 00:28:26,323.3661919
Harmony, I, I have to confess, dragged me to an Eckhart Tolle lecture, and I really, wasn't sure about that guy.

304
00:28:26,423.3661919 --> 00:28:29,840.0348586
But I left overwhelmed with his goodness.

305
00:28:29,960.0338586 --> 00:28:35,140.0338586
And I was like, "Oh, this guy, that guy is really a, an amazing human being on the planet."

306
00:28:35,190.0338586 --> 00:28:38,910.0368586
I'm really, I'm really grateful to Harmony- that she did drag me.

307
00:28:39,540.0358586 --> 00:28:43,290.0368586
I did- She even, like, pretended that that's not where we were going.

308
00:28:44,260.0368586 --> 00:28:46,150.0368586
Are you serious? That's not good.

309
00:28:46,180.0348586 --> 00:28:47,160.0348586
You, yeah, we're not doing that on...

310
00:28:47,210.0338586 --> 00:28:49,890.0318586
We're, uh, but we have to-" It's like- we're going on a date on Saturday."

311
00:28:49,890.0348586 --> 00:28:52,570.0348586
It's like, "It's not to the Eckhart Tolle thing, is it?" "No, no, we're going out to dinner."

312
00:28:52,660.0388586 --> 00:28:53,240.0328586
It's like, "Okay."

313
00:28:54,120.0378586 --> 00:29:02,634.5998586
And, but what I heard what you say something that reminded me of it, is that he lives in this, luminous or limbic space.

314
00:29:02,654.6028586 --> 00:29:03,634.5988586
There's another word.

315
00:29:03,804.5968586 --> 00:29:04,694.5948586
Luminous is good.

316
00:29:04,854.5998586 --> 00:29:05,794.5998586
A luminous space.

317
00:29:05,944.5968586 --> 00:29:06,194.5968586
Okay.

318
00:29:06,334.5958586 --> 00:29:06,424.5958586
Liminal.

319
00:29:07,404.5958586 --> 00:29:07,684.5958586
Liminal.

320
00:29:07,704.5988586 --> 00:29:19,554.5998586
He lives in this liminal space of, receiving and seeing energy and seeing all things and seeing the fictional constructions of personality everywhere.

321
00:29:20,394.5978586 --> 00:29:27,287.9271919
And I was sitting there and I remember like, "Oh, I had that once for, like, half an hour," like, when, uh, like 30 years ago.

322
00:29:27,507.9281919 --> 00:29:31,987.9301919
But he's still in it 50s, 50, 60 years later.

323
00:29:32,437.9291919 --> 00:29:43,957.9211919
And sometimes in, in psychedelics or when I've come out of a, of, like, a week-long meditation retreat, I can just feel the edges of it again.

324
00:29:45,117.9221919 --> 00:29:48,187.9221919
But you said something and I was like, "Oh, that's where you're living."

325
00:29:50,299.9311919 --> 00:29:50,809.9311919
Jamie.

326
00:29:51,631.9311919 --> 00:29:51,731.9311919
Okay.

327
00:29:52,281.9311919 --> 00:29:58,495.9311919
First, you did a week-long meditation and your wife had to drag you to Yeah, for sure.

328
00:29:59,411.9311919 --> 00:30:00,81.9311919
Wow.

329
00:30:00,215.9311919 --> 00:30:01,315.9311919
didn't get a good read on him.

330
00:30:02,115.9311919 --> 00:30:03,665.9311919
I saw his book, saw his videos.

331
00:30:03,675.9311919 --> 00:30:04,765.9311919
I was like, "I'm not sure.

332
00:30:05,475.9311919 --> 00:30:06,95.9301919
Creeps me out."

333
00:30:06,419.2635252 --> 00:30:07,569.2645252
Doesn't anymore.

334
00:30:08,419.2635252 --> 00:30:09,319.2645252
That's over.

335
00:30:09,559.2645252 --> 00:30:10,409.2635252
That's over with.

336
00:30:10,449.2645252 --> 00:30:11,899.2635252
But I definitely got...

337
00:30:12,119.2645252 --> 00:30:15,189.2645252
You know, some people are channelers, some people are not good at it.

338
00:30:15,719.2635252 --> 00:30:20,319.2645252
And I definitely s- got a read, and I was like, "Mm-mm, not that guy, no."

339
00:30:20,469.2635252 --> 00:30:21,19.2635252
Mm.

340
00:30:21,329.2645252 --> 00:30:23,489.2645252
Well, I, I appreciate you followed your gut instinct.

341
00:30:23,999.2645252 --> 00:30:24,839.2645252
I'm all about that.

342
00:30:25,929.2645252 --> 00:30:27,239.2645252
And that you trust your wife.

343
00:30:27,543.2645252 --> 00:30:27,573.2645252
I do.

344
00:30:28,153.2645252 --> 00:30:28,373.2645252
Yeah.

345
00:30:29,109.2645252 --> 00:30:30,159.2645252
Like check, check.

346
00:30:30,269.2645252 --> 00:30:30,729.2645252
We're good.

347
00:30:31,653.2645252 --> 00:30:32,173.2645252
It's true.

348
00:30:34,51.9311919 --> 00:30:42,121.9311919
I would love to confess that I live in this limital world like Eckhart Tolle, but I would say for me, I call it more of a cheat sheet.

349
00:30:42,681.9311919 --> 00:31:00,381.9301919
Oh I'm more silly and a little bit more earthbound than what he's achieved with abilities, and I-- because I work so hard at turning it off so that I can do some just normal things, you know? Um, I...

350
00:31:01,131.9301919 --> 00:31:01,611.9301919
Yes.

351
00:31:01,871.9301919 --> 00:31:02,441.9301919
Oh my God.

352
00:31:02,911.9311919 --> 00:31:08,561.9291919
Raise children who are-- That's a whole, like, other story that's wild.

353
00:31:09,361.9311919 --> 00:31:13,141.9301919
I turn it on when I need more assistance.

354
00:31:13,801.9301919 --> 00:31:21,961.9321919
Instead of asking for help or instead of asking for a follow-up or further questions, you know, information, I go into observing.

355
00:31:22,691.9291919 --> 00:31:25,111.9291919
Let me observe the light, the frequency that you carry.

356
00:31:25,111.9311919 --> 00:31:26,791.9281919
Let me look at the pattern that you're doing.

357
00:31:27,101.9291919 --> 00:31:38,601.9311919
Let me look at where there are excess energy or tears or holes, and that gives me all the information that I would need to, you know, coexist with you, to kind of be in there to understand what's happening.

358
00:31:39,21.9261919 --> 00:31:43,121.9311919
And you can do that with people, inanimate objects, animals, plants.

359
00:31:44,1.9291919 --> 00:31:50,521.9291919
You can do it in structures like a business structure or a relationship in and of itself to see the health of it energetically.

360
00:31:51,51.9331919 --> 00:31:53,151.9291919
And so I tend to rely on it that way.

361
00:31:53,151.9311919 --> 00:32:02,341.9281919
But there are times in my life where I might be walking somewhere, and it just all comes on, you know? And then usually I get woken up with, "Babe, come on.

362
00:32:02,761.9321919 --> 00:32:03,881.9311919
We're walking this way."

363
00:32:04,401.9311919 --> 00:32:11,911.9261919
And I'm standing there at the tree, like, observing and soaking things up like, "Oh, my God, this is so beautiful."

364
00:32:11,911.9261919 --> 00:32:12,831.9291919
And they're like, "Mm-hmm.

365
00:32:12,841.9261919 --> 00:32:13,291.9301919
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

366
00:32:13,291.9301919 --> 00:32:13,591.9311919
Come on.

367
00:32:13,591.9311919 --> 00:32:15,621.9251919
We're walking, remember?" I'm like, "Uh-huh."

368
00:32:16,39.9311919 --> 00:32:17,921.9301919
People often on Life.

369
00:32:18,99.9311919 --> 00:32:18,239.9311919
do that.

370
00:32:19,629.9311919 --> 00:32:20,689.9311919
It's so interesting.

371
00:32:20,689.9311919 --> 00:32:31,679.9301919
I'm, I'm curious, like, so you were massaging and into, like, doing reiki and really, like, working sort of in the healing arts at the beginning.

372
00:32:32,259.9311919 --> 00:32:54,307.2645252
Were you very aware of, like, perceiving energy in the auric field even then? Even more so maybe? Or like, it was, like, on more of the time because that's where your focus was? And how has it, like, shifted now? Ah, yeah, it was very much on still when I was doing my massage school, Reiki.

373
00:32:54,707.2645252 --> 00:32:59,757.2645252
That's where it was kind of all coming together, but I wasn't talking about it a lot 'cause it was still...

374
00:33:00,107.2645252 --> 00:33:06,447.2635252
You know, throughout my college career, once you'd figure out what I did, there was two ways that you could go.

375
00:33:07,577.2635252 --> 00:33:11,797.2635252
there's more than that, but, you know, it was classically, "Oh my God, she's weird.

376
00:33:12,227.2645252 --> 00:33:13,307.2635252
Like, get away from her."

377
00:33:13,807.2645252 --> 00:33:19,417.2625252
And the other one is, "I'm gonna make you my best friend so you can answer all my questions," and that was exhausting.

378
00:33:19,877.2645252 --> 00:33:26,277.2625252
And it was very rare just to find a, just a solid little friendship that didn't matter that I could see your light.

379
00:33:26,297.2625252 --> 00:33:33,107.2625252
I wasn't gonna share anything about what I saw to you or to anyone else 'cause I learned.

380
00:33:33,137.2625252 --> 00:33:34,287.2645252
I lost friends.

381
00:33:34,297.2625252 --> 00:33:37,127.2625252
I lost everything, and it made me very quiet.

382
00:33:37,537.2645252 --> 00:34:02,776.029514
So in my massage career and Reiki career, it was more like this really beautiful time about collecting information, especially about seeing diseases, how you can see the disease build in the body and how the body responds to it energetically, and how you can, I guess we can say, manipulate, move, shift, or change frequency in the body for the disease to dissolve, to work itself away.

383
00:34:02,796.032514 --> 00:34:17,346.031514
And I've worked with broken bones that have healed before the person made it to the hospital, and unfortunately had to get their bone rebroken because I was not smart enough to realize you don't heal something that is broken.

384
00:34:17,466.030514 --> 00:34:20,686.032514
It has to be set, then you wanna heal the bone.

385
00:34:21,396.031514 --> 00:34:27,396.034514
And so my friend got chastised for not showing up to the hospital right away after breaking...

386
00:34:27,426.029514 --> 00:34:32,396.033514
They're like, "This is probably days old," and we're like, "No, it just, like, it just happened."

387
00:34:33,456.028514 --> 00:34:33,746.028514
Mm.

388
00:34:33,756.031514 --> 00:34:40,16.032514
So I make sure when I teach my Reiki classes, "Don't heal a bone until you know it's really set."

389
00:34:40,556.034514 --> 00:34:41,866.029514
Um, yeah.

390
00:34:41,916.027514 --> 00:34:48,506.030514
And I've had opportunities of working with aggressive cancers and tumors and just watching them vanish.

391
00:34:48,906.033514 --> 00:34:51,375.0770745
Like, I cannot stress it enough.

392
00:34:51,405.0830745 --> 00:34:54,985.0840745
I am not a person who believes in everything.

393
00:34:55,85.0840745 --> 00:34:55,865.0800745
I, I'm not.

394
00:34:56,425.0800745 --> 00:34:58,895.0850745
I'm I'm more, "Show it to me.

395
00:34:59,485.0780745 --> 00:35:02,415.0780745
Let me experience it, and then I'll tell you it's real."

396
00:35:02,875.0770745 --> 00:35:06,105.0790745
But if it was your experience, I'll go, "That's really cool.

397
00:35:06,175.0800745 --> 00:35:13,43.0830745
I can't wait for that to occur around me so I can say that's real for my world," but that is very real for your world.

398
00:35:13,755.0820745 --> 00:35:19,225.0750745
So whenever I share something, it's because I've gone through it and I'm like, "I know what I experienced."

399
00:35:19,665.0850745 --> 00:35:23,245.0730745
I pay attention, you know, with my facts and things of that nature.

400
00:35:23,265.0760745 --> 00:35:39,885.0920745
So watching, like fourth-degree burns, heal up without scarring, you know, just working with a lot of wonderful people who gave me a lot of trust and seeing that firsthand, it just makes you realize we are made of energy.

401
00:35:40,515.0940745 --> 00:35:49,175.0940745
And why aren't we paying attention to that a little bit more than, than what we are? I mean, this should be the number one thing we're focusing on, Mm-hmm.

402
00:35:50,105.0930745 --> 00:35:52,305.0940745
right? It's incredible Yeah.

403
00:35:52,315.0940745 --> 00:35:52,385.0940745
Right.

404
00:35:52,385.0940745 --> 00:35:58,528.4274078
It's, profound, and we're just, like, so caught up in, the physical- Mm and not, like...

405
00:35:58,908.4274078 --> 00:36:00,648.4274078
Like, I think a lot of it...

406
00:36:01,38.4274078 --> 00:36:24,928.4254078
I've thought a lot about this, but I think a lot of it comes to, I think children are very sensitive to energy naturally, and like your own story, we get taught to turn it off and, numb ourselves, become dull, to, like, shut down certain aspects of ourselves, whether it's, you know, aspects of our brain, aspects of our, our ability to perceive things.

407
00:36:24,988.4254078 --> 00:36:39,858.4254078
And for a lot of people, I think that shutting down is, like, you know, part of you kind of like, you know, maybe fractures in some way or disconnects, and you have to then intentionally do things to reconnect it.

408
00:36:40,21.7607412 --> 00:36:57,997.1845764
you know, I was, I was reading, Aldous Huxley's "Doors of Perception" recently, and I'd never, I'd never read it before until just last month, and I was really kind of struck by it 'cause he was describing the effects of, say, a kind of a low-grade, low-dose, mescaline.

409
00:36:58,907.1845764 --> 00:37:13,537.1885764
And The shift in his mind of stepping through the door of perception was instead of looking at everything and describing it to himself and wondering about its quality or its name or its cost or its provenance, he just saw the light play in it.

410
00:37:15,227.1885764 --> 00:37:18,867.1865764
And he described that in the book, like that's what it's about.

411
00:37:19,377.1905764 --> 00:37:23,67.1835764
And I was like, "Oh, but that's where I live.

412
00:37:23,687.1875764 --> 00:37:25,477.1885764
I live in that space.

413
00:37:25,727.1885764 --> 00:37:30,347.1875764
I, I look at the world and wonder if it would make a good painting for me."

414
00:37:31,108.5229098 --> 00:37:37,924.5229098
Oh And so I just, you know, I-- And so it was like, that was the thing that was not destroyed as a child.

415
00:37:37,934.5229098 --> 00:37:38,434.5229098
Yeah.

416
00:37:38,534.5229098 --> 00:37:46,454.5229098
Is someone told me that I, I painted, like I, I made a really nice drawing of a rabbit or a little bunny, and said, "You should keep doing that."

417
00:37:46,464.5229098 --> 00:37:48,134.5229098
And it's like, so I just kept doing that.

418
00:37:48,764.5219098 --> 00:37:55,94.5229098
And so that's how, you know, I operate, is, is living and looking around and like, "Well, if I could just...

419
00:37:55,524.5229098 --> 00:37:56,604.5219098
That might be nice."

420
00:37:57,171.1885764 --> 00:37:58,521.1895764
could make a painting out of that."

421
00:37:59,471.1885764 --> 00:37:59,801.1885764
Yeah.

422
00:38:00,421.1895764 --> 00:38:11,711.1895764
How lovely that you don't immediately go to the description of the structure or the name of it, you know? Or even the capturing of it in that moment.

423
00:38:12,31.1895764 --> 00:38:15,161.1895764
You let it become more fluid with you, more creative.

424
00:38:16,101.1895764 --> 00:38:26,63.1895764
I mean, the, the bottom line in anyone who comes to me and is like, "Okay, well, where do I begin?" Like, "How, how do I get Yeah, that's the number one question, I think.

425
00:38:26,621.1895764 --> 00:38:27,273.1895764
right? Yeah.

426
00:38:27,413.1895764 --> 00:38:33,431.1865764
Hmm Where do I go? And I'm like, "First of all, make sure you really want it," you know? But, 'cause that's a lot.

427
00:38:33,811.1885764 --> 00:39:00,971.1915764
But it's, like, where's your creativity? Where's your play? Can you play? If I give you a bunch of crayons and I say, "Draw something," is it stressful or is it fun? is it limitless, or is it like "I have to do this perfect so they like what I've done"? Where are you in that? Because if I throw a bunch of crayons on the table and you're like, "Woo! All right, I'm just gonna do what I wanna do," then we've got it.

428
00:39:01,461.1905764 --> 00:39:01,951.1885764
Let's go.

429
00:39:03,181.1915764 --> 00:39:03,671.1865764
Let's go.

430
00:39:03,671.1895764 --> 00:39:04,321.1905764
You got this.

431
00:39:04,881.1885764 --> 00:39:23,451.1865764
But if not, then we need to sit down and look at why did you put those limitations on you? Who trained you that you had to perform to somebody else's standards? M- minus, you know, the probably 12-plus years you dedicated into school structures that were all about teacher has power, you pay attention and listen to me.

432
00:39:23,451.1885764 --> 00:39:33,321.1885764
But, you know, it's like, where's that? Let's address that first before we get into my psychic intuition and my feelings and all of that.

433
00:39:34,331.1935764 --> 00:39:36,851.1875764
Because if you can open up that, you can do any of this.

434
00:39:36,911.1875764 --> 00:39:40,19.1915764
All of this will flow right through you Yeah, I'm so curious.

435
00:39:40,169.1915764 --> 00:39:41,829.1915764
So there's like a couple things.

436
00:39:41,839.1915764 --> 00:39:52,59.1905764
Feelings, creativity, Like it feels like those are really important for connecting to energy or even channeling.

437
00:39:52,69.1905764 --> 00:39:57,69.1905764
Would you say that those are sort of main things? Is there other things that we like learn to kind of...

438
00:39:57,419.1915764 --> 00:39:59,899.1915764
'Cause I think those are things we shut down, we learn to shut down.

439
00:39:59,909.1915764 --> 00:40:04,39.1915764
Like don't feel your feelings, Oh my it down.

440
00:40:05,9.1915764 --> 00:40:05,239.1915764
No.

441
00:40:05,799.1915764 --> 00:40:06,169.1915764
Please do.

442
00:40:06,559.1915764 --> 00:40:12,79.1915764
Please do feel your body's sensations and your emotional quality.

443
00:40:12,422.5259098 --> 00:40:25,242.5249098
I quite adore non-violent communication, compassionate communication as a, a, a baseline of where I want my language to come from, my expression of communication.

444
00:40:26,262.5249098 --> 00:40:31,242.5249098
And I've been in the world for about eight years, I don't know.

445
00:40:31,812.5259098 --> 00:40:34,252.5239098
Just it's too much time has happened.

446
00:40:34,642.5239098 --> 00:40:36,722.5259098
But nine, ten, I don't know what it is.

447
00:40:36,742.5269098 --> 00:40:39,302.5249098
But it's-- I'm constantly learning with it.

448
00:40:39,532.5239098 --> 00:40:43,692.5259098
If-- so I'm sharing that I've been in there for a long time, and it's still brand new.

449
00:40:43,782.5239098 --> 00:40:52,242.5229098
I'm still finding places where I'm like, "I am blocking myself and not allowing it to be a little bit more organic."

450
00:40:52,692.5239098 --> 00:41:02,722.5209098
And in compassionate communication, the first thing I like to present and talk about is the difference between feelings and emotions, because emotion's got the shaft.

451
00:41:03,52.5239098 --> 00:41:09,642.5189098
Like, we just use the word feeling for everything, and then we even use the word feeling when we mean thinking.

452
00:41:09,780.5239098 --> 00:41:12,22.5229098
Like, "I feel like eating a pizza."

453
00:41:13,442.5229098 --> 00:41:29,281.3189098
Do you really feel like eating a pizza, or is it that you want to eat a pizza, or you think you want it? Like, what-- You-- The, the word is lost in translation because it's really powerful, and I think it's been covered that way and used that way to dim people's lights.

454
00:41:29,441.3159098 --> 00:41:30,761.3209098
Kinda keep them confused.

455
00:41:31,311.3189098 --> 00:41:34,951.3149098
And so when we talk about compassionate communication, you gotta know where your emotions are.

456
00:41:35,911.3179098 --> 00:41:40,461.3189098
And on an average, a person uses only eight emotions their entire life.

457
00:41:40,961.3209098 --> 00:41:45,351.3179098
You link on eight different names of emotions, and there's, like, endless.

458
00:41:45,401.3159098 --> 00:41:46,831.3189098
I can think of 88 right away.

459
00:41:47,171.3199098 --> 00:41:50,431.3219098
But we pick eight, and that comes from your childhood.

460
00:41:50,441.3159098 --> 00:42:02,151.3179098
So that comes from who, you know, was your care providers at that time or who you trusted in, and you took on their one or two and built it, and then you shoved everything else that you felt into those eight.

461
00:42:02,661.3179098 --> 00:42:09,231.3239098
And so unlocking that unlocks a lot of your intuitive psychic abilities, a lot of your clear cognizance.

462
00:42:09,251.3219098 --> 00:42:10,631.3119098
Everything just starts to bloom.

463
00:42:10,873.3209098 --> 00:42:11,163.3209098
Hmm.

464
00:42:11,653.3209098 --> 00:42:11,923.3209098
That's...

465
00:42:11,971.3229098 --> 00:42:12,911.3199098
So I would say yes.

466
00:42:13,891.3209098 --> 00:42:15,23.3209098
Big Yeah, wow.

467
00:42:15,23.3209098 --> 00:42:17,203.3209098
I can't remember the name of this dude that I knew.

468
00:42:17,213.3209098 --> 00:42:19,573.3209098
He worked with our organization and he, he...

469
00:42:19,723.3209098 --> 00:42:27,643.3209098
But he created a book on naming emotions, and he had a wonderful little color grid.

470
00:42:28,209.9875764 --> 00:42:37,539.9855764
and as you went through your XY axis, you were invited to, to name the emotion as it went from one section to the other.

471
00:42:37,539.9865764 --> 00:42:51,39.9905764
And it really helped, young people, and especially young boys, develop a lexicon for language and words that they, as you said, were previously limited to, like, five or six, eight maybe.

472
00:42:52,821.9895764 --> 00:42:54,505.9895764
Cal, why aren't we teaching this in school? Yeah.

473
00:42:54,505.9895764 --> 00:42:55,525.9895764
Mm-hmm.

474
00:42:55,755.9895764 --> 00:42:55,775.9895764
Yeah.

475
00:42:56,345.9895764 --> 00:43:20,377.3229098
And do you find, like, that the emotion and even, like, maybe physical sensation that you might be perceiving in the body, for you, is it always-- do you see it in color? Is, like, that sort of how you translate those things? Or is that just specific to, aura and energy? Yeah When I observe others and they're going through emotion, I can see it in color.

476
00:43:20,957.3229098 --> 00:43:24,243.3229098
Like, even when you're lying Mm-hmm.

477
00:43:25,967.3229098 --> 00:43:33,937.3229098
My husband loves this trait Especially if he's trying to hide something as a surprise.

478
00:43:35,57.3219098 --> 00:43:37,287.3219098
You know, now he'll just say, "Don't look at me.

479
00:43:37,387.3219098 --> 00:43:42,627.3219098
Don't ask me about this," and he'll, like, walk away, and I'm like, "Okay, I know it's a no zone.

480
00:43:43,67.3219098 --> 00:43:44,487.3229098
I need to respect him."

481
00:43:44,687.3209098 --> 00:43:46,997.3219098
Like, people think they have secrets.

482
00:43:46,997.3229098 --> 00:43:47,807.3219098
There's no secrets.

483
00:43:47,807.3219098 --> 00:43:50,107.3209098
I'm tell- there is zero secrets out in the world.

484
00:43:50,157.3209098 --> 00:43:57,907.3209098
You hold all of your knowledge, all of your everything in your auric field, your energetic field, and it can be measured and observed.

485
00:43:57,937.3229098 --> 00:43:59,447.3219098
Trust me, there are no secrets.

486
00:43:59,457.3239098 --> 00:44:04,257.3199098
But we like to pretend we have 'em, so we don't look.

487
00:44:04,607.3209098 --> 00:44:16,837.3199098
but when it comes to bodily sensations, there are some that I don't tap into very well if I'm observing someone, unless it's a, an illness or an injury.

488
00:44:17,207.3189098 --> 00:44:18,177.3209098
You know, I can observe...

489
00:44:18,187.3219098 --> 00:44:20,223.3219098
Or a pregnancy Mm-hmm.

490
00:44:21,53.3219098 --> 00:44:24,847.3179098
You can like feel it in your body? well, you see it.

491
00:44:24,917.3219098 --> 00:44:30,463.3209098
You can see, you know, if Didn't you say that you felt it immediately? Yeah, when I was pregnant.

492
00:44:30,463.3209098 --> 00:44:33,163.3219098
But I don't feel other people's pregnancies in my body.

493
00:44:33,913.3219098 --> 00:44:36,223.3209098
You said you felt it immediately as well.

494
00:44:37,433.3229098 --> 00:44:37,723.3229098
Yeah.

495
00:44:37,953.3209098 --> 00:44:38,223.3209098
Yeah.

496
00:44:38,303.3209098 --> 00:44:38,943.3209098
Immediately.

497
00:44:38,943.3209098 --> 00:44:41,613.3219098
I felt like there was an energetic shift in my body.

498
00:44:41,613.3219098 --> 00:44:43,313.3219098
Mm-hmm.

499
00:44:43,313.3219098 --> 00:44:45,313.3219098
Mm-hmm.

500
00:44:45,367.3219098 --> 00:44:47,717.3219098
one pregnancy like that, and the other one I had no clue.

501
00:44:47,993.3219098 --> 00:44:48,793.3219098
Interesting.

502
00:44:49,193.3219098 --> 00:44:49,603.3219098
Oh, wow.

503
00:44:50,203.3219098 --> 00:44:51,433.3219098
That's your secret baby.

504
00:44:53,83.3219098 --> 00:44:55,563.3219098
That's the child that's very good at hiding things from you.

505
00:44:55,868.3887839 --> 00:45:13,472.3887839
Yes, it is Spot on So I wanna talk a little bit about trance channeling 'cause I find this very interesting and fascinating, and I was listening to you describe it, and I've, you know, kind of like looked into it a little bit.

506
00:45:14,62.3887839 --> 00:45:29,752.3887839
My own experience, I know that feeling of kind of like not being in your body and having something kinda come through your body or also kind of being aware of your body but not in control of your body.

507
00:45:30,52.3867839 --> 00:45:44,900.3887839
Can you talk a little bit about the different kinds of channeling that people experience and your experience with it? Yeah, there's unfortunately not a ton of studies around different styles of trance channeling.

508
00:45:45,370.3887839 --> 00:45:49,0.3887839
There's a lot of studies around altered states of consciousness.

509
00:45:49,800.3887839 --> 00:45:57,220.3887839
so that's labeled more towards brainwave activity from gamma, beta, alpha, theta, delta being the lowest.

510
00:45:57,640.3887839 --> 00:46:04,850.3887839
And our trance channeled abilities kind of rely on how that brainwave activity is happening in the body.

511
00:46:06,0.3887839 --> 00:46:14,170.3877839
So the way I talk about it or try to teach it is to the terms of the scientific measurement of brainwave activity.

512
00:46:14,720.3887839 --> 00:46:17,860.3877839
But I'll just put l- some loose names on it.

513
00:46:17,920.3887839 --> 00:46:34,220.3897839
I call one an auctioneer, and this is where somebody will be awake and in a conversation like we are right now, and then they just get this download, and it ba-da-da-da pops out their mouth, and they have a voice in the back of their head that goes, "Damn, that was really good.

514
00:46:34,500.3867839 --> 00:46:39,150.3867839
Did you just hear what you said? Oh my God, I learned from that."

515
00:46:39,160.3867839 --> 00:46:41,420.3887839
And they learned from themself talking.

516
00:46:42,850.3897839 --> 00:46:45,90.3907839
And then they're like, and they get surprised.

517
00:46:45,570.3907839 --> 00:46:51,390.3837839
That's downloading information from outside of you, and it just runs out your mouth.

518
00:46:51,420.3887839 --> 00:46:52,780.3897839
It doesn't get filtered anywhere.

519
00:46:52,980.3867839 --> 00:46:55,740.3887839
So I just kinda call it an auctioneer I like that.

520
00:46:55,740.3887839 --> 00:46:56,890.3887839
That, that sounds familiar to me.

521
00:46:57,40.3887839 --> 00:46:57,130.3887839
Yeah.

522
00:46:57,656.3887839 --> 00:47:02,770.3887839
Yeah, you do that, right? And you kinda come to and go, Yeah.

523
00:47:03,710.3887839 --> 00:47:06,760.3877839
and all the time I'm always like, "Why didn't I record that?" Yeah, yeah.

524
00:47:07,538.3887839 --> 00:47:07,938.3887839
Writing.

525
00:47:08,858.3887839 --> 00:47:12,958.3887839
You're kind of lost in the moment and you're like, "Oh my God, I could never get that back," 'cause you were in an altered state.

526
00:47:12,958.3887839 --> 00:47:16,98.3887839
You flipped, just and let it pour through you.

527
00:47:16,468.3887839 --> 00:47:17,718.3887839
I love those moments.

528
00:47:17,718.3887839 --> 00:47:18,568.3877839
I cherish them.

529
00:47:19,68.3887839 --> 00:47:37,98.3887839
Then you have the kind where you're actively focusing on it, so maybe this is automatic writing, where you're sharing parts of you to, you know, offer up energies, and you're not filtering the information through, but maybe it's a little bit more slow, a little bit more controlled.

530
00:47:37,828.3877839 --> 00:47:49,778.3887839
Automatic writing, sometimes we can also, if we're using a tool like a, a Ouija board or a talking board, this can also be a part of that where you're going into different states and allowing the messages to move through you.

531
00:47:50,446.3897839 --> 00:47:52,606.3897839
Mm-hmm.

532
00:47:52,606.3897839 --> 00:47:52,616.3897839
Mm-hmm.

533
00:47:53,78.3867839 --> 00:47:57,68.3897839
where this is, you're in a low alpha, high theta.

534
00:47:57,68.3897839 --> 00:48:01,828.3887839
Your consciousness is still there, so beta brain wave activity is kind of second in line.

535
00:48:02,198.3897839 --> 00:48:03,518.3897839
Alpha or theta is first.

536
00:48:03,988.3867839 --> 00:48:20,658.3847839
And so you're aware of your senses, but they're really, really heightened, and you're allowing energy, whether it's universal energy, God source energy, spirit, multidimensional, whatever you're working with, allowing it to come into the body to speak through you.

537
00:48:20,658.3847839 --> 00:48:21,818.3887839
But you're very aware of it.

538
00:48:21,908.3847839 --> 00:48:23,258.3907839
You know your mouth is moving.

539
00:48:23,488.3867839 --> 00:48:24,428.3877839
You hear the words.

540
00:48:24,468.3907839 --> 00:48:27,328.3907839
You come back and you're like, "I remember that."

541
00:48:27,358.3897839 --> 00:48:35,678.3917839
Like, Lee Harris is a great example of this, where he can just sit in, close his eyes, the Zs come in, he talks right to it, through it.

542
00:48:36,78.3907839 --> 00:48:44,318.3907839
When he comes back, he's aware of what questions were asked, and he can speak to the points and really hold that space of processing after the information comes through.

543
00:48:45,458.3877839 --> 00:48:49,578.3857839
And then there's a full body incorporation, and this is more of a shutdown.

544
00:48:49,588.3857839 --> 00:48:57,598.3867839
It has more of a, a distance between beta brain waves, which is our conscious memory, versus, you know, the deep theta, delta.

545
00:48:58,8.3837839 --> 00:49:00,888.3857839
This is how Edgar Cayce worked, the sleeping prophet.

546
00:49:01,798.3877839 --> 00:49:17,338.3807839
this is often how I work, is where I bring spirit in and I don't have a memory or a recollection of what they've said, which is a little alarming when you come back and you observe who's, you know, been listening, and they're looking at you like...

547
00:49:18,548.3937839 --> 00:49:20,658.3807839
And you're like, "I have no clue.

548
00:49:20,698.3877839 --> 00:49:22,548.3937839
Please don't look at me like I know something.

549
00:49:22,548.3937839 --> 00:49:23,468.3857839
It's really freaky."

550
00:49:23,468.3917839 --> 00:49:27,378.3877839
Just kind of put your head down and you're like, "Thank you so much for coming."

551
00:49:27,458.3817839 --> 00:49:29,348.3907839
Like, Show's over, I don't know."

552
00:49:29,818.3857839 --> 00:49:42,938.3957839
so this is, the spirit has full, you know, use and autonomy, but you don't get the joy of remembering the information that comes through, so it's really best to have somebody sit with you or have a recording on.

553
00:49:43,28.3917839 --> 00:49:44,698.3967839
I prefer somebody sitting with you.

554
00:49:45,348.3867839 --> 00:49:46,748.3817839
so that's kind of the stages.

555
00:49:46,748.3817839 --> 00:49:52,698.3857839
It's like light, medium, and then medium to deep.

556
00:49:53,300.3837839 --> 00:50:02,877.7171173
Do you think anyone can learn to do this or do you think it's specific to having like a unique sort of disposition towards it? Oh, that's good.

557
00:50:03,497.7171173 --> 00:50:04,157.7171173
That's good.

558
00:50:04,577.7171173 --> 00:50:08,177.7171173
Because I'm in the, the house of anybody can learn it.

559
00:50:08,747.7171173 --> 00:50:12,667.7171173
But if you don't have the right disposition, you need to learn how to have the right disposition.

560
00:50:13,517.7171173 --> 00:50:19,67.7161173
Like, you have to really work on your perspective, your openness, your willingness.

561
00:50:19,917.7171173 --> 00:50:22,317.7171173
It's the work of staying neutral.

562
00:50:23,7.7171173 --> 00:50:27,407.7161173
And it, it's difficult because you're allowing energy to move through you.

563
00:50:27,437.7171173 --> 00:50:31,97.7161173
And because it's using your instrument, your body, you're thinking, "It's me."

564
00:50:31,677.7171173 --> 00:50:32,697.7171173
But it's not you.

565
00:50:33,227.7161173 --> 00:50:47,827.7161173
And so then if it's not you, are you pretending? Are you imagining? Are you an imposter? Like, there's a whole other world of confusion that comes with sharing your instrument with other energy using it.

566
00:50:47,867.7161173 --> 00:50:51,787.7141173
So, you need to, yes, have the right disposition.

567
00:50:52,467.7141173 --> 00:50:56,507.7111173
Uh, it can be mentally challenging, and very isolating and very lonely.

568
00:50:56,947.7141173 --> 00:50:59,547.7121173
You wouldn't think because it's such a cool and interesting tool.

569
00:50:59,987.7111173 --> 00:51:07,87.7091173
But at the same time, it's, it's a world that happens inside of you, and it's very difficult to share about it with the person sitting next to you.

570
00:51:07,487.7111173 --> 00:51:10,477.7091173
The messages that come out, of course, that's shared, that's broadcast.

571
00:51:10,787.7141173 --> 00:51:14,157.7101173
But what happens internally for you to get to that spot, that's all on you.

572
00:51:14,787.7141173 --> 00:51:16,337.7151173
Nobody else is in there with you.

573
00:51:16,347.7121173 --> 00:51:23,597.7151173
Nobody else is taking the mental journey or the brainwave journey to dump down the brainwaves to get to a deeper trance.

574
00:51:23,717.7141173 --> 00:51:24,717.7131173
That's on you.

575
00:51:25,207.7121173 --> 00:51:31,807.7121173
So, whenever I teach these classes, I teach them over four months to really slow the process down.

576
00:51:31,807.7121173 --> 00:51:34,517.7141173
And I give breaks in between so that you can do the work on your own.

577
00:51:34,517.7141173 --> 00:51:35,577.7141173
Then we regather.

578
00:51:35,997.7131173 --> 00:51:37,67.7091173
We have chat threads.

579
00:51:37,67.7131173 --> 00:51:46,477.7121173
You know, we talk about our feelings, what's happening, so that you're approaching it with more confidence, more connection than using it as a tool.

580
00:51:46,757.7151173 --> 00:51:54,557.7091173
It's more of a skill or a lifestyle shift than just something you grab off the shelf and go, "I'm gonna use this today."

581
00:51:55,147.7151173 --> 00:51:57,447.7091173
Like, eh, maybe not.

582
00:51:57,847.7091173 --> 00:52:14,715.7141173
Like- I, can I ask you, uh, I, I had an experience where I, I had smoked some kind of synthetic neurotoxin that Harmony had given me, and I was in a whiteout, but she says that I reached out and, asked for her to hold my hand.

583
00:52:15,885.7131173 --> 00:52:19,315.7141173
But all I remember is waking up the two of us holding hands.

584
00:52:20,9.0474506 --> 00:52:31,239.0484506
is that a kind of example of what you're talking about of being in the, the delta wave and you're transmitting knowledge? Obviously, I wasn't transmitting anything at all except wanting connection, which is a lot.

585
00:52:31,449.0464506 --> 00:52:39,241.7151173
But it's not like, a download of, a, Akashic records, you know? No, it's a perfect example.

586
00:52:39,261.7151173 --> 00:52:42,621.7151173
It's chemically induced or otherly induced trance states.

587
00:52:43,271.7151173 --> 00:52:57,895.7131173
Yeah, this can be done with sleep deprivation, even alcohol can cause this to people, psilocybin, traumatic incidences, wounds, things of that nature can increase chance of going into deep trance states.

588
00:52:58,275.7131173 --> 00:53:03,49.7141173
So yes, you're communicative, you're alert, but it's not processing in your memory bank.

589
00:53:04,35.7141173 --> 00:53:06,245.7131173
It's like a subconscious memory bank.

590
00:53:06,275.7131173 --> 00:53:07,235.7131173
That's where it's going.

591
00:53:07,565.7121173 --> 00:53:08,865.7141173
So we can access it.

592
00:53:08,875.7141173 --> 00:53:09,975.7131173
You can get there.

593
00:53:10,435.7111173 --> 00:53:19,737.7141173
I love how they call it subconscious, but I, I associate it as a higher consciousness thing, but we call it sub And then like there's like more of it than our actual consciousness, so it's kinda weird.

594
00:53:19,737.7141173 --> 00:53:22,547.7141173
Yeah.

595
00:53:22,779.7141173 --> 00:53:27,935.7141173
need to redo that map Should we call it like the overlord consciousness? There you go.

596
00:53:28,105.7141173 --> 00:53:28,865.7141173
The one up there.

597
00:53:29,305.7141173 --> 00:53:42,687.7141173
That's where your can you hold my hand went, you know? And so if you went up and accessed those higher frequencies, all of what was around that would come back to you consciously in your beta brainwave Ah, that's amazing.

598
00:53:42,957.7141173 --> 00:53:44,597.7141173
Oh, I, I have one last question.

599
00:53:44,647.7141173 --> 00:53:51,307.7141173
I am very curious about your tattoos, and I wonder if your tattoos in any way are...

600
00:53:51,327.7141173 --> 00:54:07,679.7141173
Is it, is it different or harder for you to get a tattoo given your sensitivity to e- energy? And like, so what specifically happened for you that you said, "I need to get these images on my arm"? my arm, my back, my legs.

601
00:54:07,779.7141173 --> 00:54:12,19.7141173
my f- first one was the open lotus with, om.

602
00:54:12,549.7141173 --> 00:54:16,889.7141173
So the sound of the universe or the sound of God in- into my open soul.

603
00:54:16,909.7131173 --> 00:54:26,849.7131173
It's at the base of my Oh for my yogic practice, for connecting to the seat of the soul, and I felt like I needed it with me.

604
00:54:27,339.7131173 --> 00:54:30,199.7131173
it helped me stay more in my body.

605
00:54:31,889.7141173 --> 00:54:37,39.7151173
I'm highly sensitive, but I think my pain threshold is, pretty strong.

606
00:54:37,649.7121173 --> 00:54:39,483.0484506
So, this has...

607
00:54:39,983.0484506 --> 00:54:41,303.0464506
None of it was an issue.

608
00:54:41,403.0464506 --> 00:54:42,293.0474506
Those are my ferns.

609
00:54:42,293.0474506 --> 00:54:43,335.0484506
They're called ghost ferns.

610
00:54:43,635.0484506 --> 00:54:44,405.0484506
Ghost ferns.

611
00:54:44,415.0484506 --> 00:54:46,225.0484506
Beautiful Yeah, I, I didn't think that...

612
00:54:46,445.0484506 --> 00:54:51,35.0484506
Yeah, I th- I thought about energetically, not as, not as a physical pain.

613
00:54:51,45.0484506 --> 00:54:55,701.0484506
Is that a line of chakras on your arm? It is my family.

614
00:54:55,835.0484506 --> 00:55:01,221.0484506
Oh, amazing Oh am, I'm actually 1/16th Muscogee Indian.

615
00:55:01,237.0484506 --> 00:55:01,547.0484506
Okay.

616
00:55:01,787.0484506 --> 00:55:02,317.0484506
Awesome.

617
00:55:02,391.0484506 --> 00:55:03,131.0484506
I don't look like it.

618
00:55:03,201.0474506 --> 00:55:05,31.0474506
I got the cheeks, and I get the wrinkles.

619
00:55:05,741.0474506 --> 00:55:12,441.0484506
And so in, Muscogee Indian, the, seer that communicates to the dead is the blackbird, the Okay.

620
00:55:12,721.0474506 --> 00:55:13,861.0484506
crow, the raven.

621
00:55:14,191.0484506 --> 00:55:15,741.0474506
And so the raven is me.

622
00:55:16,361.0484506 --> 00:55:16,571.0484506
Mm.

623
00:55:16,671.0484506 --> 00:55:17,261.0484506
Oh.

624
00:55:17,311.0474506 --> 00:55:22,581.0484506
And the, that is my light around my feet, and my light carries my family.

625
00:55:22,881.0464506 --> 00:55:24,661.0484506
This is my daughter, the changeling.

626
00:55:24,671.0474506 --> 00:55:25,601.0464506
She's the moon.

627
00:55:26,121.0484506 --> 00:55:27,211.0474506
This is my son.

628
00:55:28,21.0464506 --> 00:55:28,941.0494506
He's the sun.

629
00:55:29,1.0454506 --> 00:55:30,311.0464506
And this is my husband.

630
00:55:30,311.0474506 --> 00:55:32,431.0474506
He's the compass, my direction.

631
00:55:32,791.0464506 --> 00:55:35,671.0484506
And this is my light, and it comes all the way up.

632
00:55:35,671.0484506 --> 00:55:38,871.0484506
The m- the bird is looking at my heart.

633
00:55:40,151.0474506 --> 00:55:43,701.0484506
The, the artist was like, "We don't put birds facing...

634
00:55:43,711.0484506 --> 00:55:45,171.0464506
We always put birds flying away."

635
00:55:45,171.0474506 --> 00:55:46,141.0464506
And I was like, "You will not.

636
00:55:46,541.0464506 --> 00:55:48,91.0454506
This bird is flying to my heart."

637
00:55:48,141.0494506 --> 00:55:50,891.0464506
And he was like, "Hmm, we're gonna position the bird..."

638
00:55:50,901.0474506 --> 00:55:51,881.0484506
I was like, "No, you're not."

639
00:55:52,231.0454506 --> 00:55:54,91.0484506
So, uh, he put it this way.

640
00:55:54,91.0484506 --> 00:55:55,121.0484506
He loved it after.

641
00:55:55,441.0484506 --> 00:55:57,421.0464506
And so then the light comes all the way up.

642
00:55:58,855.0484506 --> 00:56:00,145.0484506
Beautiful.

643
00:56:00,155.0484506 --> 00:56:02,125.0484506
Oh, voice oh, oh, oh.

644
00:56:02,215.0484506 --> 00:56:02,345.0484506
Oh.

645
00:56:02,425.0484506 --> 00:56:03,715.0484506
Oh, the cicada.

646
00:56:04,445.0484506 --> 00:56:04,595.0484506
The cicada.

647
00:56:04,645.0484506 --> 00:56:05,575.0484506
Amazing.

648
00:56:05,585.0484506 --> 00:56:07,265.0484506
Oh.

649
00:56:07,315.0484506 --> 00:56:08,525.0484506
Wow.

650
00:56:08,535.0474506 --> 00:56:09,685.0484506
Well, I'm glad I asked.

651
00:56:09,765.0484506 --> 00:56:10,475.0484506
Yeah.

652
00:56:10,475.0484506 --> 00:56:11,645.0484506
That was a good one.

653
00:56:14,99.0484506 --> 00:56:19,279.0484506
Oh, like if ink is going on my body, it has to have the most beautiful meaning.

654
00:56:19,279.0484506 --> 00:56:25,149.0484506
And on, you know, the ferns, the fiddle ferns, how they unfurl, and they're so delicate, but they're so strong at the same time.

655
00:56:25,159.0474506 --> 00:56:29,609.0484506
It's just, I love always growing and always learning something new.

656
00:56:29,609.0484506 --> 00:56:31,599.0474506
I'm, I'm never gonna be the same person I was.

657
00:56:31,639.0474506 --> 00:56:33,809.0484506
I'm not gonna be the same person after our conversation.

658
00:56:34,229.0474506 --> 00:56:48,759.0484506
Like, this has been just delightful and so opening, and I appreciate how you guys seek people to just have real live conversations with, to bring knowledge and information and experiences from other people to a greater platform.

659
00:56:48,759.0484506 --> 00:56:57,79.0484506
And it's more of like, just look, look, see this? You know, and just by doing that, a, a person will maybe get interested in something.

660
00:56:57,349.0464506 --> 00:57:00,409.0494506
You know, hopefully they'll continue to binge your podcast, you know.

661
00:57:00,409.0494506 --> 00:57:12,89.0454506
But if they find a topic that they like, I hope they're encouraged to like, Yeah put their fingers to the keyboard, research it, dive into it, give them permission to, you know, explore, grow into something different.

662
00:57:12,749.0474506 --> 00:57:13,739.0454506
So It's exciting.

663
00:57:13,831.0484506 --> 00:57:14,951.0484506
so important.

664
00:57:15,181.0484506 --> 00:57:15,201.0484506
Yay.

665
00:57:16,701.0484506 --> 00:57:19,471.0484506
Okay, I have one more question before we let you escape.

666
00:57:19,979.0484506 --> 00:57:20,459.0484506
please.

667
00:57:21,9.0484506 --> 00:57:23,351.0484506
You can hold me captive okay, amazing.

668
00:57:23,911.0484506 --> 00:57:25,531.0484506
Don't say that, I might keep you forever.

669
00:57:26,657.7151173 --> 00:57:49,761.0484506
so actually maybe there's two more questions, but the first one is about if somebody like wants to deepen their, you know, claires, their claircognizance, clairvoyance, their ability to channel or see energy, I mean, to me it sounds like especially with the brainwaves, you know, having, developing some kind of meditation practice would be, vital.

670
00:57:49,921.0464506 --> 00:58:03,601.7151173
But what other tools could people work on that would help them kind of clear their own channels so that they can channel? okay, let's take this in two different ways.

671
00:58:03,981.7151173 --> 00:58:09,601.7141173
Let's take it for the one that's more of a feeler and more of a heady person.

672
00:58:10,551.7151173 --> 00:58:16,361.7151173
because I think there's quite a different, you know, a- approach for this two kind of styles.

673
00:58:16,791.7141173 --> 00:58:25,661.7151173
And so for the heady person, I would probably say to you, "You're doing this whether you know it or not, so let's highlight that for you.

674
00:58:25,671.7151173 --> 00:58:33,141.7131173
We need your left side of the brain to start cheering you on rather than looking for all the things that go, 'That's not it.

675
00:58:33,361.7131173 --> 00:58:34,361.7161173
You're not doing that.

676
00:58:34,421.7151173 --> 00:58:35,111.7161173
That's BS.

677
00:58:35,151.7141173 --> 00:58:36,271.7131173
That's my imagination.

678
00:58:36,271.7131173 --> 00:58:37,21.7141173
That's not true.'

679
00:58:37,571.7131173 --> 00:58:38,751.7161173
Like, it's shutting you down.

680
00:58:39,141.7121173 --> 00:58:41,351.7141173
So take on this homework.

681
00:58:42,1.7131173 --> 00:58:44,941.7121173
Just trust me with this one if you're a heady person, please.

682
00:58:45,471.7141173 --> 00:58:50,281.7141173
Try three days, three days, pen and paper.

683
00:58:50,511.7151173 --> 00:58:51,271.7151173
Not in your phone.

684
00:58:51,281.7151173 --> 00:58:52,91.7121173
Get pen and paper.

685
00:58:52,291.7141173 --> 00:58:53,591.7141173
There's a system here.

686
00:58:54,151.7141173 --> 00:58:56,751.7151173
And I want you to write down all the intuitive hits that you get.

687
00:58:57,201.7141173 --> 00:59:01,291.7131173
All the stuff that you think and you're like, 'Why am I thinking that?' I want you to write it down.

688
00:59:01,641.7121173 --> 00:59:04,591.7171173
If you have a weird dream, just write down a few sentences about the dream.

689
00:59:05,1.7131173 --> 00:59:08,587.7151173
If you're like, 'I'm thinking of my mom and I don't know why', write down, 'Thinking of mom.'"

690
00:59:09,311.7101173 --> 00:59:13,561.7131173
And then maybe mom calls five minutes later and you're like, "Well, that's weird."

691
00:59:13,921.7111173 --> 00:59:15,41.7151173
No, it's not weird.

692
00:59:15,281.7121173 --> 00:59:16,911.7141173
It's called premonition.

693
00:59:17,331.7151173 --> 00:59:18,541.7101173
It's called connection.

694
00:59:18,751.7131173 --> 00:59:19,411.7111173
You're okay.

695
00:59:19,411.7171173 --> 00:59:22,201.7101173
We're just gonna reword, you know, your structures.

696
00:59:22,641.7121173 --> 00:59:36,351.7121173
After three days, go back and look at it and let your brain see in a book format, piece of paper, because you've been trained in all your years of school that knowledge rests on paper, and that you can read that and take it for fact and truth.

697
00:59:36,601.7111173 --> 00:59:38,321.7121173
So that's why we're putting it on paper.

698
00:59:38,801.7161173 --> 00:59:42,781.7091173
And read it and go, "Oh, I actually do that way more than I thought I did."

699
00:59:43,91.7091173 --> 00:59:45,721.7151173
And your brain will go, "Oh, that's true."

700
00:59:46,191.7151173 --> 00:59:51,371.7101173
And then when it starts to happen in real time, the left side of your brain will go, "It's happening again.

701
00:59:52,161.7091173 --> 00:59:52,881.7101173
Take note.

702
00:59:53,251.7131173 --> 00:59:54,221.7131173
This is real.

703
00:59:54,241.7111173 --> 00:59:54,621.7151173
This is...

704
00:59:54,821.7131173 --> 00:59:56,761.7151173
Oh my gosh, this is your intuition."

705
00:59:56,761.7151173 --> 00:59:58,1.7091173
And you'll go, "Yeah, it is."

706
00:59:58,621.7161173 --> 01:00:03,691.7111173
And you'll start to realize you do it so much more already, even from the get-go.

707
01:00:04,201.7101173 --> 01:00:06,121.7131173
So that's a great start.

708
01:00:06,381.7101173 --> 01:00:11,1.7191173
And then another thing for the heady, you might not like me for this one.

709
01:00:11,651.7141173 --> 01:00:13,81.7151173
Um, you for all of it.

710
01:00:13,91.7151173 --> 01:00:13,191.7151173
Mm.

711
01:00:14,821.7151173 --> 01:00:16,691.7151173
Listeners might not like you, but I love you.

712
01:00:19,817.7151173 --> 01:00:22,807.7151173
I would say try a monotask.

713
01:00:23,957.7151173 --> 01:00:28,827.7151173
Because when you're really heady, you, you believe you're more talented at multitasking.

714
01:00:28,877.7151173 --> 01:00:40,737.7151173
You're gonna think about all kinds of things, what my body is doing, I'm chewing gum, I'm planning my meal, I'm listening to some music, and I'm also cleaning up, and then this is what I gotta do next, and you think you're just being awesome, and your head's so busy.

715
01:00:41,27.7151173 --> 01:00:47,137.7151173
When your head is busy like that, you can't read the subtle light energy signs that your body is picking up on.

716
01:00:47,517.7131173 --> 01:00:49,967.7151173
It's called subtle light energy for a reason.

717
01:00:50,347.7151173 --> 01:00:51,123.7151173
It's subtle.

718
01:00:51,907.7121173 --> 01:00:59,157.7141173
And if you're being loud and big with all of your thoughts and you're multitasking, subtle is not gonna present itself.

719
01:00:59,707.7151173 --> 01:01:01,127.7131173
So we gotta give it some space.

720
01:01:01,427.7131173 --> 01:01:06,837.7151173
And to give it some space is to monotask, which means just to do one thing.

721
01:01:06,837.7151173 --> 01:01:15,865.7151173
So if you're chewing gum, Just check, you just get to chew gum You don't get to chew gum and listen to music Or walk the dogs and listen to a podcast.

722
01:01:17,37.7131173 --> 01:01:17,417.7151173
Uh-huh.

723
01:01:18,167.7111173 --> 01:01:18,467.7101173
Try it.

724
01:01:18,585.7151173 --> 01:01:19,685.7151173
feel so seen.

725
01:01:22,155.7151173 --> 01:01:25,405.7151173
Like 20 tabs open listening to something at two times the speed.

726
01:01:26,345.7151173 --> 01:01:28,865.7151173
As, as it turns out, I'm the feeler and you're the heady one.

727
01:01:29,35.7151173 --> 01:01:29,855.7151173
Oh, my goodness.

728
01:01:31,757.7151173 --> 01:01:32,717.7151173
Shocker.

729
01:01:35,997.7151173 --> 01:01:37,787.7151173
Yeah, one thing.

730
01:01:37,977.7151173 --> 01:01:45,107.7151173
And so here's a quick little thing you can do, is you can count one to five, or you can say the alphabet without having another thought.

731
01:01:45,787.7151173 --> 01:01:47,857.7141173
Not going, "Oh, I just said the number one."

732
01:01:47,907.7151173 --> 01:01:48,517.7141173
That's a thought.

733
01:01:48,927.7151173 --> 01:01:54,107.7151173
Go back to number one, and you just say one, two, three.

734
01:01:54,187.7141173 --> 01:01:56,377.7141173
Oh, and I just thought, "Oh, she's nodding her head in agreement."

735
01:01:56,397.7151173 --> 01:01:57,437.7151173
So I would go back to one.

736
01:01:58,7.7151173 --> 01:01:59,667.7131173
One, two.

737
01:01:59,927.7151173 --> 01:02:05,699.7151173
And just see how high you can get and just monotask that skill That's how I started meditating, actually.

738
01:02:06,735.7151173 --> 01:02:16,709.7151173
Look at that a, like a type of, Zen meditation, or Chan meditation where you just count the breath, and every time you have a thought, you go back to one.

739
01:02:18,125.7151173 --> 01:02:18,435.7151173
That's it.

740
01:02:18,659.7151173 --> 01:02:22,439.7141173
As competitive as you are, that would really just get under your skin.

741
01:02:22,769.7151173 --> 01:02:23,329.7141173
It worked.

742
01:02:26,413.7151173 --> 01:02:31,479.7151173
And then if you can get all the way up to 10, you go back to one Beautiful.

743
01:02:31,729.7151173 --> 01:02:32,139.7151173
Yes.

744
01:02:32,179.7151173 --> 01:02:41,57.7151173
Or, and you can just keep counting as well, 11 and, and up, and get to 10 and you're like, "Yes!" I'm done.

745
01:02:42,37.7151173 --> 01:02:47,717.7151173
What can I do next? You know, so that will help calm the mind.

746
01:02:47,747.7151173 --> 01:02:57,237.7141173
Both of those cases help you see the abilities you already have and calm the mind so the body is more sensitive so that you can feel those gut instincts and those hits.

747
01:02:58,207.7141173 --> 01:03:08,97.7131173
For emotional people, I would say your homework is anytime you go to have a conversation, at the beginning of the conversation, announce to yourself what emotion you're in.

748
01:03:08,857.7121173 --> 01:03:18,317.7141173
Start practicing naming the emotion you're in, and it might be multiple emotions: excited, nervous, elated, curious.

749
01:03:19,637.7141173 --> 01:03:21,97.7151173
And now you go into the conversation.

750
01:03:21,407.7151173 --> 01:03:25,527.7141173
You don't have to say it before every sentence, but just announce it before you get into a new thing.

751
01:03:25,547.7141173 --> 01:03:29,397.7121173
You get into your car, before you start driving, announce the emotions you're in.

752
01:03:29,597.7131173 --> 01:03:32,687.7121173
Not the feelings, not the physical feelings, the emotions.

753
01:03:33,247.7111173 --> 01:03:35,427.7121173
So we wanna build your emotional vocabulary.

754
01:03:35,427.7121173 --> 01:03:39,767.7121173
We want to build your awareness of what you're experiencing, what you're going through at that time.

755
01:03:39,797.7141173 --> 01:03:40,987.7141173
I don't need you to know why.

756
01:03:41,557.7161173 --> 01:03:45,107.7121173
I don't need you to know where it came from, to label it, to like it, to dislike it.

757
01:03:45,137.7101173 --> 01:03:45,997.7121173
Don't care about any of that.

758
01:03:45,997.7121173 --> 01:03:52,727.7141173
I just want you to name-- just kinda name it so that your brain goes, "We are having many emotions right now.

759
01:03:52,917.7091173 --> 01:03:54,487.7091173
I was just thinking we're good."

760
01:03:55,397.7091173 --> 01:03:56,57.7091173
That's what the brain will say.

761
01:03:56,697.7161173 --> 01:03:57,743.7141173
we're we're fine.

762
01:03:57,753.7141173 --> 01:03:58,423.7141173
We're fine.

763
01:03:58,433.7141173 --> 01:03:58,633.7141173
Mm.

764
01:03:59,17.7151173 --> 01:03:59,737.7161173
We're fine.

765
01:03:59,787.7121173 --> 01:04:00,407.7081173
That's a good one there.

766
01:04:00,507.7131173 --> 01:04:01,357.7101173
We're fine.

767
01:04:01,857.7121173 --> 01:04:02,577.7131173
It's okay.

768
01:04:02,693.7141173 --> 01:04:03,273.7131173
It's okay.

769
01:04:03,343.7141173 --> 01:04:07,313.7131173
That is really helpful actually, and I do- Like okay isn't even an emotion actually.

770
01:04:07,573.7141173 --> 01:04:08,953.7131173
I do do that.

771
01:04:09,23.7141173 --> 01:04:10,13.7141173
I say, "I'm...

772
01:04:10,113.7141173 --> 01:04:14,623.7141173
I can see I'm really frustrated, but I'm st- I'm gonna go walk the dogs anyway."

773
01:04:15,903.7141173 --> 01:04:16,913.7141173
Yes, that's it.

774
01:04:16,973.7141173 --> 01:04:22,923.7141173
Please continue that, broaden that, 'cause it'll bring out your psychic, it'll bring out your intuition.

775
01:04:22,933.7141173 --> 01:04:25,63.7141173
Like, it'll start to work with you.

776
01:04:25,473.7141173 --> 01:04:41,788.3807839
The other thing that you can do is, um, when you are, I guess you could say triggered or when you're having a reaction, a reaction to something, ooh, whether it's excited or not, I want you to immediately go, "Is this mine?" Oh.

777
01:04:41,850.3797839 --> 01:04:46,990.3807839
Is this mine? You walk into a room and you're like, "Ooh, wait, is this mine?" Yeah.

778
01:04:47,120.3807839 --> 01:04:50,883.7141173
That, what do 'Cause you're reading my kryptonite is that.

779
01:04:51,993.7141173 --> 01:04:58,163.7141173
Your kryptonite? You absorb and you feel everybody else If I get triggered, it's me, it's mine.

780
01:04:58,553.7141173 --> 01:05:01,3.7141173
Yeah, it's my s- and yeah, it's overwhelming.

781
01:05:01,703.7131173 --> 01:05:02,3.7131173
Yeah.

782
01:05:02,209.7141173 --> 01:05:03,769.7141173
Yeah, and it might not be yours at all.

783
01:05:04,669.7141173 --> 01:05:05,319.7141173
At all.

784
01:05:05,439.7141173 --> 01:05:12,719.7141173
You could be so sensitive where you're reading it from the person that was there three days ago that left a bomb of energy that nobody cleaned up.

785
01:05:13,439.7141173 --> 01:05:20,99.7141173
Or it could be that you're reading it from three weeks or two years ahead of you where a situation happened because time's not linear, it's stacked.

786
01:05:20,539.7141173 --> 01:05:30,379.7141173
And so you're so sensitive, you're picking it up from the future sense, and now you're trying to manage it, and you think it's all you, and you're the one all fucked up, and you're the one having to manage it, and you don't understand what's happening.

787
01:05:30,379.7141173 --> 01:05:34,559.7151173
You're like, "Where the hell is this all coming from?" It wasn't, it wasn't you at all.

788
01:05:34,559.7151173 --> 01:05:38,409.7131173
It was other, and you were reading the information and collecting it.

789
01:05:38,409.7151173 --> 01:05:46,389.7131173
So if you check in with yourself often and go, "Is this mine?" And then you'll feel this, yes, it is, and you're like, "Okay, I need to handle this."

790
01:05:46,719.7121173 --> 01:05:50,239.7141173
And sometimes you'll get this pushback like, "No, no, it's not mine."

791
01:05:50,239.7141173 --> 01:05:51,289.7151173
You're like, "Overwhelming.

792
01:05:51,299.7141173 --> 01:05:51,799.7141173
Too much.

793
01:05:51,799.7141173 --> 01:05:54,269.7111173
What is this?" And you, you don't understand it.

794
01:05:54,279.7141173 --> 01:05:55,749.7121173
That's when you know it's not yours.

795
01:05:56,199.7121173 --> 01:05:58,599.7111173
So you get to set it down.

796
01:05:58,819.7151173 --> 01:06:00,399.7141173
You get to leave it behind.

797
01:06:00,689.7141173 --> 01:06:01,439.7121173
It's not yours.

798
01:06:01,449.7121173 --> 01:06:02,589.7111173
You don't have to process it.

799
01:06:02,849.7131173 --> 01:06:05,159.7121173
You don't have to imagine that it's yours to take care of it.

800
01:06:05,549.7141173 --> 01:06:08,69.7111173
Just set it down, keep going.

801
01:06:08,379.7121173 --> 01:06:19,879.7141173
And so when you learn the difference of what's generated by you versus what you're reading intuitively, oh my gosh, your abilities, they just instantly, like wildfire, they just blossom.

802
01:06:19,889.7141173 --> 01:06:20,559.7121173
Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba.

803
01:06:20,559.7121173 --> 01:06:21,709.7131173
It just gets stronger.

804
01:06:22,69.7151173 --> 01:06:23,269.7151173
You're more confident.

805
01:06:23,269.7151173 --> 01:06:24,109.7141173
You're more aware.

806
01:06:24,359.7161173 --> 01:06:26,359.7141173
Now you can go into crowds of people.

807
01:06:26,359.7161173 --> 01:06:31,229.7121173
Now you can go to a concert, and you're like, "Guess what, everybody's feelings? Go ahead and be big.

808
01:06:31,569.7151173 --> 01:06:32,269.7101173
You're not mine."

809
01:06:32,659.7111173 --> 01:06:33,819.7091173
And you don't take them home with you.

810
01:06:33,829.7091173 --> 01:06:34,849.7141173
You don't absorb them.

811
01:06:35,169.7131173 --> 01:06:36,379.7091173
You don't have to process it.

812
01:06:36,599.7131173 --> 01:06:38,389.7091173
You don't get overwhelmed by the loudness.

813
01:06:38,419.7131173 --> 01:06:49,139.7121173
Nothing like that because you have now discovered this invisible acceptance barrier, you know? I, I love all that's mine, and you get to take what's yours.

814
01:06:49,429.7151173 --> 01:06:52,889.7111173
I get to see it, maybe feel it, identify it, but it's cool.

815
01:06:53,469.7141173 --> 01:06:54,419.7141173
No, Harmony has that.

816
01:06:54,419.7141173 --> 01:06:54,859.7141173
I don't.

817
01:06:55,579.7141173 --> 01:06:56,39.7141173
Yeah.

818
01:06:56,149.7141173 --> 01:06:58,629.7141173
I have that barrier for sure.

819
01:06:58,829.7141173 --> 01:06:58,919.7141173
She has that.

820
01:06:59,99.7141173 --> 01:07:00,579.7141173
And we know that I don't.

821
01:07:00,899.7141173 --> 01:07:03,129.7141173
Yeah, but she's telling you how to develop it.

822
01:07:03,129.7141173 --> 01:07:03,869.7141173
I- I'm hearing that.

823
01:07:04,449.7141173 --> 01:07:04,889.7141173
Mm.

824
01:07:05,313.7141173 --> 01:07:12,847.7141173
Do you just tuck in behind her when she goes through a crowd? You just, like, get behind her and hold onto her skirt She should wear skirts, yeah.

825
01:07:15,723.7141173 --> 01:07:17,567.7141173
Hold onto her He sends me out.

826
01:07:17,607.7141173 --> 01:07:18,497.7141173
"Go do that thing."

827
01:07:18,931.6249453 --> 01:07:21,761.6249453
Can you go order the meal? Can you go pick it up? Can you...

828
01:07:22,429.6249453 --> 01:07:23,539.6249453
No, it's interesting.

829
01:07:23,539.6249453 --> 01:07:25,19.6249453
You know, Sunday I was...

830
01:07:25,79.6249453 --> 01:07:31,99.6249453
We were driving home with our c- with our young man, and he was controlling my window.

831
01:07:31,729.6239453 --> 01:07:33,299.6249453
And I was like, "No, don't control my window.

832
01:07:33,299.6249453 --> 01:07:34,59.6249453
That's my window."

833
01:07:34,99.6239453 --> 01:07:36,269.6259453
And I was, like, putting my window, and he kept pulling my window down.

834
01:07:36,579.6249453 --> 01:07:41,179.6239453
I said, K-" He was putting it down, and the son who was driving- And I said, "Stop" was putting it up.

835
01:07:41,209.6239453 --> 01:07:41,779.6239453
Stop.

836
01:07:41,939.6249453 --> 01:07:48,439.6249453
Can you stop controlling my fucking window, please?" And then I went back to t- talking to Harmony, and I just completely let it go.

837
01:07:49,299.6239453 --> 01:07:54,449.6239453
He and I had already made an appointment to play video games together when I got home, and he blew it off.

838
01:07:54,579.6249453 --> 01:07:56,379.6249453
He was so upset.

839
01:07:56,689.6249453 --> 01:08:00,279.6229453
His whole evening was wrecked, and he didn't wanna have anything to do with us.

840
01:08:00,279.6249453 --> 01:08:00,839.6229453
He was upset.

841
01:08:00,839.6229453 --> 01:08:02,159.6249453
He didn't even say goodbye to us at night.

842
01:08:02,889.6249453 --> 01:08:10,409.6239453
But I knew that I had taken it on, and it was my emotion, my energy, and I was so upset I couldn't sleep.

843
01:08:12,29.6239453 --> 01:08:13,259.6269453
And I talked to Harmony about it.

844
01:08:13,259.6269453 --> 01:08:17,279.6239453
I was like, "I'm so fucking pissed that he's, that his whole evening is now wrecked."

845
01:08:17,699.6269453 --> 01:08:20,299.6269453
And like, I just want someone to not fucking fuck with me.

846
01:08:20,429.6269453 --> 01:08:21,679.6249453
Like, I'm just fucking tired of it.

847
01:08:22,499.6219453 --> 01:08:26,109.6259453
And, but like, why is he the one that's now angry f- for...

848
01:08:26,119.6249453 --> 01:08:27,909.6239453
You know? And I was like, "Oh, I was so upset."

849
01:08:27,919.6279453 --> 01:08:34,79.6219453
And it was like, but there's, like, so many circles of people owning each other's energy but not having to.

850
01:08:34,732.4371768 --> 01:08:37,156.4371768
So much of it miscommunication Yeah.

851
01:08:37,176.4371768 --> 01:08:42,426.4371768
Well, and on top of that, we were driving home from my parents' house, so that's like a whole other circle of energy to take on.

852
01:08:44,20.4371768 --> 01:08:44,500.4371768
I bet.

853
01:08:44,800.4371768 --> 01:08:45,596.4371768
It was fine.

854
01:08:46,326.4371768 --> 01:08:46,486.4371768
Mm.

855
01:08:47,76.4371768 --> 01:08:47,216.4371768
It was fine.

856
01:08:47,216.4371768 --> 01:08:47,306.4371768
Mm.

857
01:08:47,306.4371768 --> 01:08:51,246.4361768
Oh, this conversation is so good, and these assignments are so good.

858
01:08:51,246.4371768 --> 01:08:52,426.4361768
I'm gonna take them to heart.

859
01:08:52,546.4361768 --> 01:08:52,826.4361768
Same.

860
01:08:52,896.4361768 --> 01:08:53,706.4371768
I love it.

861
01:08:54,26.4371768 --> 01:09:06,376.4361768
I feel just like so many things that you've said have, like, been like check, check, like messages I've been getting that I have not acted on, so now I'm like, "Okay, I'm gonna do it 100%."

862
01:09:06,716.4361768 --> 01:09:18,96.4371768
I hope all the listeners also play along with us, and they should also tag you in Instagram and me and the podcast, and we will share it if they're playing along.

863
01:09:18,346.4371768 --> 01:09:19,346.4351768
That would be so fun.

864
01:09:19,356.4351768 --> 01:09:27,26.4381768
What, what is your, your, uh- And- Instagram? maybe you can tell everyone where to find you, what's coming up, and how to work with you.

865
01:09:28,8.4381768 --> 01:09:28,358.4381768
Thank you.

866
01:09:28,358.4381768 --> 01:09:31,238.4381768
You can find me at jamiebutlermedium.com.

867
01:09:31,278.4381768 --> 01:09:32,328.4381768
That's the website.

868
01:09:32,348.4381768 --> 01:09:36,628.4381768
It's also the handle on Instagram and Facebook.

869
01:09:37,388.4381768 --> 01:09:42,208.4381768
That's usually where we play, as well as YouTube, Jamie Butler Medium.

870
01:09:42,250.4381768 --> 01:09:43,770.4381768
Butler Amazing YouTube channel.

871
01:09:44,948.4371768 --> 01:09:45,858.4381768
Thank you.

872
01:09:45,980.4381768 --> 01:09:46,470.4381768
Yes.

873
01:09:46,898.4381768 --> 01:09:50,650.4381768
And we have, um, retreats coming Yeah, yeah.

874
01:09:50,660.4371768 --> 01:09:58,724.4381768
You have a retreat coming up in, September, I think, right? In North Carolina? I love it there unspoken language of telepathy.

875
01:09:58,754.4381768 --> 01:10:08,698.4371768
So we start 21 days before the retreat online, doing lesson work every day, and then we meet in person and we put it into practice Wow.

876
01:10:09,228.4371768 --> 01:10:09,928.4371768
Okay.

877
01:10:09,958.4371768 --> 01:10:10,388.4371768
Yes.

878
01:10:10,458.4371768 --> 01:10:11,528.4371768
Everyone go check it out.

879
01:10:11,528.4371768 --> 01:10:13,408.4371768
Ghee butter- That sounds amazing medium.

880
01:10:15,338.4371768 --> 01:10:15,388.4371768
Mm.

881
01:10:15,648.4371768 --> 01:10:17,558.4371768
Okay, you got a new follower right now.

882
01:10:17,638.4361768 --> 01:10:20,98.4361768
Oh, J- no I.

883
01:10:20,188.4371768 --> 01:10:21,888.4371768
J-A-M-I-E.

884
01:10:22,894.4371768 --> 01:10:24,664.4371768
That's where I went wrong Beautiful.

885
01:10:25,444.4371768 --> 01:10:34,350.4371768
We are so grateful- There's a- that you came and had this wonderful conversation jamie_butler_medium Ah, yes.

886
01:10:34,360.4371768 --> 01:10:39,266.4371768
That is The Instagram, right? Is the underscore That's good.

887
01:10:39,276.4371768 --> 01:10:40,176.4371768
I am following you now.

888
01:10:41,186.4371768 --> 01:10:50,296.4371768
We'll put all of the links in the show notes so everyone can easily find you, and yeah, come check you out, work with you either in person or online.

889
01:10:50,306.4371768 --> 01:10:53,916.4371768
So, and you have a beautiful membership too, I think I do on YouTube.

890
01:10:53,996.4371768 --> 01:11:04,56.4361768
I thoroughly enjoy our group of Luminaires, those who shine light, and we do meditations and healings and channeling messages and Q&As, all kinds of things.

891
01:11:04,866.4361768 --> 01:11:05,726.4371768
So it's fun.

892
01:11:05,726.4371768 --> 01:11:06,976.4361768
Well, thank you so much, Jamie.

893
01:11:06,976.4361768 --> 01:11:07,336.4371768
Thank you, Jamie.

894
01:11:07,336.4371768 --> 01:11:08,256.4371768
It's such a pleasure.

895
01:11:08,316.4371768 --> 01:11:10,408.4371768
Such, so nice to meet Thank you to the both of you.

896
01:11:10,408.4371768 --> 01:11:12,418.4371768
The- I've loved this so much.

897
01:11:12,418.4371768 --> 01:11:16,958.4371768
Thank you for the level of comfort, the ease, and the absolute joy that you bring to the table.

898
01:11:16,958.4371768 --> 01:11:18,578.4371768
It's really authentic.

899
01:11:18,578.4371768 --> 01:11:19,348.4371768
Thank you.

900
01:11:19,528.4371768 --> 01:11:19,588.4371768
Thank you.

901
01:11:20,130.8951768 --> 01:11:46,0.8941768
I just love those tips at the end about learning to listen to your intuition, your intuitive hits about monotasking, so really doing one thing at a time, and paying attention to your sensations, to how you're feeling in your body, starting to become aware of what's around you, and concentrating, right? Having that one-pointed focus.

902
01:11:46,40.8941768 --> 01:11:52,550.8951768
That's really what Patanjali is talking about in the Yoga Sutras, creating one-pointed focus.

903
01:11:52,550.8951768 --> 01:11:57,700.8951768
What happens when you have that one point of focus is the world opens up.

904
01:11:58,510.8941768 --> 01:12:15,990.8961768
And if something inside of you wants to open your world up, to step away from the noise of everyday life and reconnect with yourself in a deeper way, then I have a few beautiful opportunities coming up that I'd love to share with you.

905
01:12:16,420.8941768 --> 01:12:24,540.8971768
October 2nd to the 4th, I will be in Philadelphia teaching a workshop at Mysore Yoga Philadelphia.

906
01:12:25,40.8971768 --> 01:12:33,50.9011768
And then don't forget, we will be gathering on the breathtaking west coast of Canada for an intimate retreat experience.

907
01:12:33,70.9001768 --> 01:12:40,800.8981768
This is the first of its kind, and we are so excited to be able to share this medicine with you.

908
01:12:41,270.8971768 --> 01:12:59,170.9011768
This is truly going to be transformational, including yoga, meditation, embodiment practices, art therapy, nature immersion, powerful breathwork experiences designed to open that door to expanded states of awareness, insight, and connection.

909
01:13:00,10.9021768 --> 01:13:21,900.9021768
This is going to be the perfect time for you to slow down, to connect to those intuitive hits, to listen deeply, and to really remember what matters, to release any of those stories and limiting beliefs that have been tying you up and holding you down.

910
01:13:22,420.8981768 --> 01:13:32,100.8941768
So if your heart's telling you that you need to be here and join us at this beautiful center, then don't ignore it.

911
01:13:32,450.9051768 --> 01:13:39,660.8991768
Reach out soon, as spaces are filling up, and we are keeping the group intentionally small.

912
01:13:40,290.9011768 --> 01:13:42,680.8921768
And you'll find all the details in the show notes.

913
01:13:42,690.8951768 --> 01:13:52,950.9041768
Send me a DM on Instagram at harmonyslaterofficial, and we can be in conversation to find out if this is the experience for you.

914
01:13:53,560.8901768 --> 01:14:05,850.8941768
Until next time, continue to trust your intuition, start to develop it, take some steps forward, and find out what's on the other side for you.

915
01:14:07,651.7297488 --> 01:14:08,251.7297488
That's it.

916
01:14:08,501.7297488 --> 01:14:12,91.7297488
We've concluded another episode of the Finding Harmony podcast.

917
01:14:12,611.7297488 --> 01:14:19,151.7297488
I just wanna thank you so much for doing the work that changes the world, starting with yourself.

918
01:14:19,471.7297488 --> 01:14:22,851.7287488
It truly does make a huge difference.

919
01:14:23,701.7287488 --> 01:14:30,691.7297488
Please make sure you have your automatic downloads turned on wherever you listen so you don't miss any of the upcoming episodes.

920
01:14:31,161.7297488 --> 01:14:34,601.7287488
I have so much more magic I can't wait to share with you.

921
01:14:35,371.7287488 --> 01:14:50,601.7277488
Lastly, if you're on Instagram, I love connecting and hearing from you, so come on over and say hello @findingharmonypodcast, and you can also come say hello to me personally @harmonyslaterofficial.

922
01:14:50,991.7297488 --> 01:14:52,861.7297488
Thank you again for being here.

923
01:14:53,71.7277488 --> 01:14:57,191.7277488
I cannot wait to share more with you in our next episode