July 15, 2025

What If Nothing Is Wrong With You? Understanding Threat, Ease, and the Nervous System

What If Nothing Is Wrong With You? Understanding Threat, Ease, and the Nervous System
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What If Nothing Is Wrong With You? Understanding Threat, Ease, and the Nervous System

What if your biggest problem… isn’t actually a problem at all? In this enlightening conversation, Harmony and Russell welcome back longtime friend, acupuncturist, and author Dr. Jagdeep Johal. Together, they explore how unresolved threat—not personality flaws or psychological issues—drives our sense of suffering.

Dr. Johal discusses his new book, Ease: Unwinding the Biology of Threat, which reframes trauma, burnout, and stress through the lens of the nervous system. From the body's threat-response system to the illusions of the left brain, this episode offers a paradigm shift: healing isn’t about fixing yourself—it’s about remembering your capacity for ease.

In this episode, you'll hear:
- Why trauma isn’t always a “big” event—it can be the accumulation of everyday stress
- How the nervous system registers threat even when we’re not consciously aware of it
- The three phases every cell moves through: Threat, Motion, and Ease
- Why the left brain constantly lies to us—and what happens when we quiet it
- The “threat bucket” metaphor and how our bodies store unresolved tension
- The difference between actual safety and perceived safety
- How acupuncture, spinal energetics, and spontaneous movement restore ease
- Why doing *nothing* might be the most healing thing of all
- How Dr. Johal’s long COVID experience shaped his understanding of illness and healing
- What dogs, trees, and artists can teach us about true ease

Guest Bio:
Dr. Jagdeep Johal is an acupuncturist, teacher, and author who integrates Chinese medicine, somatic healing, and Buddhist philosophy. For over two decades, he’s helped clients reconnect with the intelligence of the body and restore nervous system regulation. His latest book, Ease: Unwinding the Biology of Threat, offers a refreshing, practical, and poetic exploration of trauma, healing, and selfhood. You can find him at www.drjagjohal.com.

Links & Resources:
- Dr. Jagdeep Johal’s website: www.drjagjohal.com
- Purchase Ease on Amazon or listen on Audible
- Learn about Harmony’s spinal energetics sessions: www.harmonyslater.com/spinal-energetics

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00:00 - Introduction to Finding Harmony Podcast

00:42 - Meet Dr. Jagdeep Johal: Bridging Chinese Medicine and Trauma-Informed Care

02:25 - Exploring Trauma and the Nervous System

04:08 - The Concept of Threat, Motion, and Ease

05:39 - Acupuncture and the Path to Ease

06:42 - The Role of the Left and Right Brain

08:19 - The Illusion of Self and the Path to Ease

12:27 - The Impact of Language on Perception

15:11 - Societal Reflections and Personal Stories

17:56 - The Journey of Writing and Personal Insights

20:08 - Final Thoughts and Reflections

28:04 - A word from our sponsor (28:05)

32:13 - The Illusion of the Separate Self

33:19 - The Biology of Threat and Ease

34:37 - The Power of Profound Relaxation

36:16 - The Role of Play and Art in Achieving Ease

39:14 - Understanding the Empty Boat Metaphor

43:54 - Neurology vs. Psychology: The Real Source of Problems

48:14 - The Impact of Language on Perception

55:04 - AI and Human Nature: A Revealing Conversation

57:30 - Concluding Thoughts and Final Reflections

01:02:01 - Conclusion and Contact Information